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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 39847@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, 28182@debbugs.gnu.org,
	jidanni@jidanni.org
Subject: bug#28182: bug#39847: Document how users can make text-zoom keys same as browser
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2020 21:51:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mu8x40x3.fsf@stefankangas.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba3e4dd4-f73b-4e1b-bb19-0ec1b1f1b21f@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 3 Mar 2020 12:24:28 -0800 (PST)")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> I don't see how it would be backward
> compatible.  How so?

I mean that it would not change the current binding for C--.

> 1. It doesn't help with the argument currently
>    being given, which is that users are used to
>    `C-+/-'.  `s-+/-' doesn't help at all, given
>    such a habit, does it?

I personally agree with Richard that C-- and C-+ is a better default
and I also think it's okay if negative prefix argument is only on M--.
However, Eli has stated in Bug#28182 that he doesn't want a backward
incompatible change.

AFAICT, s-- and s-+ has some precedence.  It's used in Sublime
Text.  Atom and VSCode use C-- and C-+.  This is from searching the
web.

> 2. We already have `C-x +/-'.  Why would we need
>    or want two such sets of keys, by default?

Familiarity and ease of use.  BTW, we have more than two such keys:

     C-x C-+         text-scale-adjust
     C-x C--         text-scale-adjust
     C-x C-0         text-scale-adjust
     C-x C-=         text-scale-adjust

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas





  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-03 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-29 23:06 bug#39847: Document how users can make text-zoom keys same as browser 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-01  3:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-01  5:23   ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-01 15:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-02  0:23       ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-03  3:37   ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-03 15:32     ` Drew Adams
2020-03-03 16:31       ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-03 19:55       ` Stefan Kangas
2017-08-22  3:05         ` bug#28182: maybe implement CTRL++ to zoom text 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2017-08-22 12:30           ` Nathan Moreau
2017-08-22 14:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-23 14:16             ` Richard Stallman
2017-08-23 17:55               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-23 23:05               ` Tak Kunihiro
2017-08-23 23:23                 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-23 14:57           ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2017-08-23 15:55             ` Drew Adams
2017-08-23 16:05           ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2017-08-23 16:19             ` Drew Adams
2017-08-23 23:11           ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2017-08-23 23:28             ` Drew Adams
2019-08-21  1:51           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-21  2:12             ` Drew Adams
2019-08-21 13:19               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-24 22:06                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-27  0:40                   ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-27 21:13                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-09-28 13:09                       ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-28 13:48                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-28 14:15                           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-29  1:09                             ` Richard Stallman
2019-09-29  1:40                               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-29  7:36                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-29 15:33                                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-09-29 15:40                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-29 15:37                                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-09-29 15:44                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-29 23:36                                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-09-30  3:52                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-30  6:16                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30  9:02                                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30  9:16                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-02 20:17                                             ` Alan Third
2019-09-30 14:57                                         ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-15  6:42                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-15 14:15                                             ` Drew Adams
2019-10-16  3:29                                               ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-15 17:51                                             ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16  3:27                                             ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-05 23:56                             ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-06 17:28                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-06 19:59                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-07 18:22                                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-08 14:56                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-08 21:58                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-09  6:08                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-09 21:56                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-10  7:26                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-11  0:18                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-10  8:00                                             ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-11  0:24                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-11  5:53                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-13 22:05                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-09 20:54                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-03 20:03           ` bug#28182: bug#39847: Document how users can make text-zoom keys same as browser 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-03 20:24         ` Drew Adams
2020-03-03 20:51           ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2020-03-03 21:04             ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-03 21:13             ` Drew Adams
2020-08-05 12:08         ` bug#28182: " Lars Ingebrigtsen

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