From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 0GywDdyLlF4jeAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:57:16 +0000 Received: from aspmx2.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id UHdeKt6LlF7ZGQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:57:18 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx2.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 146F668208A for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:45670 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jO1SU-0001Oa-VT for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:57:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57543) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jO1Rf-0001OQ-AK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:56:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jO1Re-00011b-3y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:56:23 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com ([173.228.157.52]:61122) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jO1Rd-00010x-Gl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:56:22 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BD7B1E28; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:56:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=jaDA88ISGGeMswKKsXpPW6uEFIg=; b=BIVtN+ uU4Iiu47dHe1MNSyFoJr7IlSM1jSYbYUb1wd7qZH/lL89tlWdTdPC7E7G7fuREuX o97a6yVeHSc10k23NOdRfV44Uf16JnI1/puP7xsqiUMSc8ouHTskNaZWs5FfRy53 +6cJDReqo5OXnR1L4xLhSk8W7JWyBW6ZvzW5c= Received: from pb-smtp20.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59817B1E27; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:56:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=kyleam.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=nzLIYUeFqMQD4sPhsViEotAM+X82UpEIBY0EHvy1yTw=; b=YtQBmWX2ghNMGTHozMu3zomqXig9acSjrl6oVQZerGZmP/AajF6Q/jIjYtuDM8Ym2Smih+GKmrBs4OajfGxbPkKVeS+KWomlC5KjJmWVn4vn2jbgt6Ee60mDohTyMZUzre1Q8AQ58RoX7sRMRjFeJLbiO//PNJqU8PqBJ3VA4z8= Received: from localhost (unknown [45.33.91.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A0B2EB1E26; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:56:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) From: Kyle Meyer To: "Jorge P. de Morais Neto" Subject: Re: Bug: Small documentation errors [9.3.6 (9.3.6-29-g6a3dff-elpaplus @ /home/jorge/.emacs.d/elpa/27.0/develop/org-plus-contrib-20200406/)] In-Reply-To: <87sgh7r3yl.fsf@disroot.org> References: <87h7xo1gf6.fsf@kyleam.com> <87sgh7r3yl.fsf@disroot.org> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:56:14 +0000 Message-ID: <87mu7f8jmp.fsf@kyleam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 4EFD9AEC-7D9F-11EA-9313-B0405B776F7B-24757444!pb-smtp20.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 173.228.157.52 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -1.21 Authentication-Results: aspmx2.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b=BIVtN+ u; dkim=pass header.d=kyleam.com header.s=mesmtp header.b=YtQBmWX2; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx2.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-1.21 / 13.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.57705751023122]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.51.188.0/24:c]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.28), country: US(-0.01), ip: 209.51.188.17(-0.58)]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pobox.com:+,kyleam.com:+]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:209.51.188.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[kyle@kyleam.com,emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pobox.com:s=sasl,kyleam.com:s=mesmtp]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[list]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kyleam.com]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[8]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: PLC2ykaf23SH Jorge P. de Morais Neto writes: > Em [2020-04-12 dom 22:35:09+0000], Kyle Meyer escreveu: > >> Thanks for sending this. My personal preference would be more focused >> reports. (And of course patches would be even better.) > > Regarding patches, I feel I am too inexperienced at this moment to > efficiently write good patches. It is possible, though, that I am just > unduly insecure. Perfectionism and low self esteem combine to generate > a lot of insecurity. Well, no pressure to send patches if you're not comfortable doing so. But sending a patch with an error or that needs work is not an issue. I'd say the mostly likely outcome is that someone will politely point that out. Not so different really than saying something wrong like: Kyle Meyer writes: >> The description of `C-c -' inverts the effect of the prefix argument. > [...] > AFAICS that matches the manual's description. And someone patiently explaining that "as far as Kyle can see" apparently wasn't very far: Jorge P. de Morais Neto writes: > Yes, this is the behavior I get too. But see what the manual says: > > If there is an active region when calling this, selected text is > changed into *an item*. > [ my emphasis ] > > It says `C-c -' changes the (potentially multiple) lines into *an item* > (singular). With the prefix argument it says: > > With a prefix argument, all lines are converted to *list items*. > [ my emphasis ] > > It says `C-c -' changes the (potentially multiple) lines into *list > items* (plural). Thanks. I'll fix that (my) tonight.