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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253636 Archived-At: On a side note, M$ Outlook is also dropping support for IMAP/SMTP. See https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/office/blogs/end-of-support-for-basic-authentication-access-to-exchange-online-apis-for-office-365-customers/ Whether one likes it or not, Outlook is the default email solution for many companies and unviersities, including mine. Therefore we need to think of a solution that preferably works for more than just Gmail. (What's more obsurd is that the IT team at my university already decided to terminate IMAP support themselves earlier this year "to avoid future troubles" which effectively broke my MUA completely.) Thanks, Matthew Richard Stallman writes: > To keep GNUS working with Gmail, we need to talk with the developers > of Kmail about how they did it. But I have no contact with them. > > Would someone please volunteer to find them and ask them to talk with > us and give us advice? > > If you succeed in finding someone ready, willing and able to advise > us, please put per in touch with me and Lars Ingebrigtsen > by email. -- Mingde (Matthew) Zeng