bug#16002: an improved input method for Esperanto

bug#16002: an improved input method for Esperanto

[Ivan Shmakov]

	As of e7203144, Emacs provides esperanto-postfix and
	esperanto-prefix input methods, which both require the use of up
	to two keystrokes per Esperanto letter.

	A more ergonomic approach is, however, to remap the letters not
	used in Esperanto (q, w, x, y), as well as the square brackets,
	to the “extra” letters needed, like (following the example of
	the ‘epo’ Xkb layout):

⋯✂⋯ C-h I esperanto RET ⋯✂⋯
     +----------------------------------------------------------------+
     | 1! | 2@ | 3# | 4$ | 5% | 6^ | 7& | 8* | 9( | 0) | -_ | =+ | `~ |
     +----------------------------------------------------------------+
       | ŝŜ | ĝĜ | eE | rR | tT | ŭŬ | uU | iI | oO | pP | ĵĴ | ĥĤ |
       +------------------------------------------------------------+
        | aA | sS | dD | fF | gG | hH | jJ | kK | lL | ;: | '" | \| |
        +-----------------------------------------------------------+
          | zZ | ĉĈ | cC | vV | bB | nN | mM | ,< | .> | /? |
          +-------------------------------------------------+
⋯✂⋯ C-h I esperanto RET ⋯✂⋯

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bug#16002: an improved input method for Esperanto

[Ivan Shmakov]

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>>>>> Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> writes:

 > As of e7203144, Emacs provides esperanto-postfix and esperanto-prefix
 > input methods, which both require the use of up to two keystrokes per
 > Esperanto letter.

	As of 36c43e95de5e (2014-12-18 16:44:11 +0000), the above still
	holds.

 > A more ergonomic approach is, however, to remap the letters not
 > used in Esperanto (q, w, x, y), as well as the square brackets, to
 > the “extra” letters needed, like (following the example of the ‘epo’
 > Xkb layout):

[…]

	… Which is easy to achieve with the quail code MIMEd.

	The question is: the code below doesn’t fit either latin-pre.el
	or latin-post.el.  Do we perhaps need to split esperanta layouts
	into a separate esperanto.el package?

	TIA.

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(quail-define-package
 "esperanto" "Esperanto" "EO" nil
 "Esperanto input method without modifiers
Key translation rules are:
 X → ?Ĉ   W → ?Ĝ   } → ?Ĥ   { → ?Ĵ   Q → ?Ŝ   Y → ?Ŭ
 x → ?ĉ   w → ?ĝ   ] → ?ĥ   [ → ?ĵ   q → ?ŝ   y → ?ŭ
" nil t t nil t nil nil nil nil nil t)

(quail-define-rules
 ("X" ?Ĉ)
 ("W" ?Ĝ)
 ("{" ?Ĵ)
 ("}" ?Ĥ)
 ("Q" ?Ŝ)
 ("Y" ?Ŭ)
 ("x" ?ĉ)
 ("w" ?ĝ)
 ("[" ?ĵ)
 ("]" ?ĥ)
 ("q" ?ŝ)
 ("y" ?ŭ)
 )

bug#16002: an improved input method for Esperanto

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> writes:

> 	… Which is easy to achieve with the quail code MIMEd.
>
> 	The question is: the code below doesn’t fit either latin-pre.el
> 	or latin-post.el.  Do we perhaps need to split esperanta layouts
> 	into a separate esperanto.el package?

I think that sounds like a good idea.

> (quail-define-package
>  "esperanto" "Esperanto" "EO" nil
>  "Esperanto input method without modifiers
> Key translation rules are:
>  X → ?Ĉ   W → ?Ĝ   } → ?Ĥ   { → ?Ĵ   Q → ?Ŝ   Y → ?Ŭ
>  x → ?ĉ   w → ?ĝ   ] → ?ĥ   [ → ?ĵ   q → ?ŝ   y → ?ŭ
> " nil t t nil t nil nil nil nil nil t)

> (quail-define-rules
>  ("X" ?Ĉ)
>  ("W" ?Ĝ)
>  ("{" ?Ĵ)
>  ("}" ?Ĥ)
>  ("Q" ?Ŝ)
>  ("Y" ?Ŭ)
>  ("x" ?ĉ)
>  ("w" ?ĝ)
>  ("[" ?ĵ)
>  ("]" ?ĥ)
>  ("q" ?ŝ)
>  ("y" ?ŭ)
>  )


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bug#16002: an improved input method for Esperanto

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> writes:

> 	As of e7203144, Emacs provides esperanto-postfix and
> 	esperanto-prefix input methods, which both require the use of up
> 	to two keystrokes per Esperanto letter.
>
> 	A more ergonomic approach is, however, to remap the letters not
> 	used in Esperanto (q, w, x, y), as well as the square brackets,
> 	to the “extra” letters needed, like (following the example of
> 	the ‘epo’ Xkb layout):
>
> ⋯✂⋯ C-h I esperanto RET ⋯✂⋯
>      +----------------------------------------------------------------+
>      | 1! | 2@ | 3# | 4$ | 5% | 6^ | 7& | 8* | 9( | 0) | -_ | =+ | `~ |
>      +----------------------------------------------------------------+
>        | ŝŜ | ĝĜ | eE | rR | tT | ŭŬ | uU | iI | oO | pP | ĵĴ | ĥĤ |
>        +------------------------------------------------------------+
>         | aA | sS | dD | fF | gG | hH | jJ | kK | lL | ;: | '" | \| |
>         +-----------------------------------------------------------+
>           | zZ | ĉĈ | cC | vV | bB | nN | mM | ,< | .> | /? |
>           +-------------------------------------------------+
> ⋯✂⋯ C-h I esperanto RET ⋯✂⋯

But is this an input method that's commonly used by Esperanto users?

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bug#16002: an improved input method for Esperanto

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> But is this an input method that's commonly used by Esperanto users?

There was no follow-up on this when the patch was posted six years ago,
or when questioned four and one years ago, so I'm thinking that there
isn't much enthusiasm for this input method, and I'm closing this bug
report.  If this is something people would like to add to Emacs, please
respond, and we'll reopen.

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