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From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: 43103@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#43103: 28.0.50; Default ElDoc composition strategy in Elisp mode (eldoc-documentation-strategy)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:11:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mu29iweu.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbd83df6-8af5-7e98-b2ec-752ee8bc1d4c@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 1 Sep 2020 13:52:00 +0300")

Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:

>> other people would like these things, hence my proposal.  I don't mind
>> the echo area jumping in height one or two lines once in a while,
>
> I mind. Unfortunately.
>
>> but if
>> others do, there are tools to control it, which we can leverage to good
>> effect.  That's it.
>
> What tools?

eldoc-echo-area-use-multiline-p, as I mentiond at least 3 times in this
thread.

>> You said you wished for a command to "show documentation" and I
>> pointed
>> you to M-x eldoc, a new command which seems to do what you want, and
>> that you might not be aware of since it wasn't discussed.

> And I told you its semantics are broken.

I think you are still confusing M-x eldoc and M-x eldoc-doc-buffer,
which are two different commands.  For the record, both commands and
surrounding functionality can and probably will be improved.

> Showing the text intended to be displayed in the echo area (one line,
> usually; maybe a few) in a full-size window is ridiculous.

This is not true in the generality of ElDoc usage, of course: LSP users
are confronted with very verbose at-point documentation.  And a window
and buffer in Emacs are not the same thing, something I assumed you
knew.

>> If you don't
>> wish to pursue this suggestion, fine.  I am in no obligation to waste my
>> time replying to every new off-topic point you bring up, I do so only
>> where I think I can add value.  Bickering with you is not one of those
>> things.
>
> If you try actually reading what I wrote, you might find some
> actionable suggestions there.

I told you at least once that it's rude to accuse other people of not
reading your emails.  It's a lie and a disrespect for the precious time
they invest in reading them and replying to them as they see fit.  Not
to mention wholly unproductive.  Because I don't have time for this, I'm
putting you in my ignore list, joined by very few, if anyone.  So now
you'll _know_ that I won't be reading what you write, and the reason why
I won't.

João









  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-01 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-29 15:36 bug#43103: 28.0.50; Default ElDoc composition strategy in Elisp mode (eldoc-documentation-strategy) João Távora
2020-08-29 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-29 16:07   ` João Távora
2020-08-29 18:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-29 20:13       ` João Távora
2020-08-30 14:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-30 15:15           ` João Távora
2020-08-31  1:07             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-08-31  8:38               ` João Távora
2020-08-31 20:03                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-08-31 20:25                   ` João Távora
2020-08-31 20:48                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-08-31 21:12                       ` João Távora
2020-08-31 21:20                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-08-31 22:50                           ` João Távora
2020-09-01 10:52                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-01 11:11                               ` João Távora [this message]
2020-09-01 11:23                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-08-31  0:47           ` Dmitry Gutov

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