From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an emacs-humanities mailing list Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 17:31:44 -0600 Message-ID: <87mtyyl8v3.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <10e79eeb32b5d8f49453fe62f145172d@skeletons.cc> <87pn3vr605.fsf@red-bean.com> <837dq3ldvh.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2ijo3tr.fsf@red-bean.com> <87eekao7qq.fsf@red-bean.com> <2a314856-5655-4479-9bc4-d8f60cb14af3@default> Reply-To: Karl Fogel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30935"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: pwr@skeletons.cc, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 01 00:32:54 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kjsf7-0007vr-9W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 00:32:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44654 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjsf6-0002hA-Bj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:32:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52698) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjse5-0002BC-4c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:31:49 -0500 Original-Received: from newsp.red-bean.com ([45.79.25.59]:42572 helo=sanpietro.red-bean.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjse2-00075Q-W5; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:31:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=red-bean.com; s=202005newsp; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:Reply-To:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=6LlZi4j8sI5vI92j59IaBkkuOaqz283YflBabJ9UbnA=; t=1606779106; x=1607988706; b=WrCWO7sk068VE6iC652crUabGq/2xH6B0yaRERs7i8AklSR6skyx9hgJhHcKO1EDr2nO8Dw1AH u1pS+920xHTpzZWnhACKa1AGrRCkSa/lc2A/NC8B/gCIuphDRVX7L+3nvSQjnCsn+yl4kOQdDAd5K qM3/Xsayp19nQCzbBJMU0bThJ6z6K7S1ciaxhvwdPtr6rjqpAtfRzL7tc468592qj6CVfa4puXOzK dfNjKaGGG6ztM6nYgPenLYqo/1XvOV7TVjgbd3OCGRhMIePPQXvWa9y5E8QJQrNvlxhOtkVY9ru8X OCxa+TF5AaYiumHeHvAICUGyG/Yj4iimOoSxA==; Original-Received: from 99-112-125-163.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net ([99.112.125.163]:51032 helo=floss) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kjse1-0001fV-5G; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 23:31:45 +0000 In-Reply-To: <2a314856-5655-4479-9bc4-d8f60cb14af3@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:17:23 -0800 (PST)") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=45.79.25.59; envelope-from=kfogel@red-bean.com; helo=sanpietro.red-bean.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260103 Archived-At: On 30 Nov 2020, Drew Adams wrote: >Chiming in here, but not with a strong opinion... > >> The cost if the experiment fails is a dead list sitting on a server. >> That cost doesn't seem very high to me in any case > >... but there's also the possible cost of others who >might be interested or able to help missing some info >or questions that they might be able to help with. > >emacs-tangents is hardly used. It's essentially >a catch-all. > >help-emacs-window isn't used a lot. But it's pretty >precisely targeted. "Humanities" is not (IMO). > >An alternative might be to start by inviting potential >"humanities" participants to use help-gnu-emacs (or >emacs-tangents?), but with a particular prefix in the >Subject line. If volume becomes reasonably high then >a new mailing list could be spun off to handle it (but >with the attendant lack of visibility to some that I >mentioned above). > >The same approach could be adopted for any other >potential "subgroup" of an Emacs list. And it makes >it pretty easy for people to filter, sort, etc., >whether or not they're interesting in topics of the >subgroup. > >Just a thought. The basic idea is to try something >out, to see how much traffic/interest there is, >before sending people off to a new list. That sounds like a good (and easy) approach to see if there really is a well-defined interest group here. Gregory Heytings also suggested it. (And, of course, anyone is free to go and create an 'emacs-humanities' mailing list on some server that they have access to -- there's no strong reason it has to be @gnu.org, except for a bit of findability bonus.) Best regards, -Karl