From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: let, let*, oh, why [was: Elisp - Function returning a list] Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 11:11:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87mty027xe.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <20201216115242.GB11162@tuxteam.de> <87sg85u9dq.fsf@zoho.eu> <87o8ir196q.fsf@zoho.eu> <874kkh9j4g.fsf@zoho.eu> <87zh215h7u.fsf@zoho.eu> <87im8p2i1r.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12561"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:rZVOrGi3lduEKNgIUXjsn3nRdxo= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 26 11:12:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6YY-00039t-Kp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 11:12:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51816 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6YX-0004iU-Mh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:12:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47706) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6YB-0004hd-Ji for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:11:51 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:58354) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6Y9-0004ew-Vt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:11:51 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6Y7-0002jA-Jg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 11:11:47 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:126780 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: > That is maybe programming language Ada, but not Ada > Lovelace. Then what about > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage who is father > of computers? There have always been mechanical machines to do counting... most likely there were such devices and solutions even during the stone age! Only they are long lost because they were made out of wood. And if you don't have a computer, and can't build one for practical reasons, one can always do a theoretical model like Alan Turing and have them execute for arbitrary/sound input, only then, one has to do computation by hand. Oh no, computer age year zero is 1947, USA, the transistor. Or more exactly, 1947-12-23. [1] $ time-from 1947-12-23 # [2] 73y 3d [1] https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200011/history.cfm [2] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/time -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal