From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Whitton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: POLL: make C-x o transient Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:12:10 -0700 Message-ID: <87mtwwd8lx.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> References: <2EFBBE54-62F4-4373-82D6-DC8750B648BA@kuaishou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37067"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "condy0919@gmail.com" , emacs-devel To: Zhiwei Chen , emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 25 22:12:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l499h-0009Wj-0P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 22:12:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41176 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l499g-0005x9-0B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:12:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41698) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4996-0005YD-LQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:11:36 -0500 Original-Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.25]:33819) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4995-0008Fo-2V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:11:36 -0500 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0B7EAC; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:11:31 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:11:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=spwhitton.name; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=fm2; bh= lhOrfHElRqULYLErsZq0075WYLbbQrZC9Fc9mSZXFIA=; b=BOii44JnGPOLhAtB 8XoeSCG/8E27TIxgu8AdwEHcOOSC70vReoC5l9RMll+idZgfBENA5gljdefN3r1O jWreuZIMRzZHyFpgLN8Z/YC49K9krP1pK1zcnqburwwYjbDyWvWhCIwegRzMiRi1 UACgnhzKgpAUH9s/x1zTybK9cXMIxTlbTJAYJEtUi1V7Ac6R4vOFVH89YbqGLUti haQum4X5l6OzNf792mZSgse9q/jO0l0w7bCIxpl+xAubNAdHkcjvnMGtyWMoUNwN orZRP8lzRmrt31uMDr2xIB0PzvOPSg/9Oe5kRX1xkymNZd2AhhB0UTvj3lTDvJ9b Wt4DRA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=lhOrfHElRqULYLErsZq0075WYLbbQrZC9Fc9mSZXF IA=; b=qi2wwZjblbpBzDAqvUgZqvW5OgD7OkpL1ifhEktNukkHWqScaGoPnBlfm uEqlOI29V59+3gd8pzdyq+GJ7WJlVrr3Vvy4D60vqhd0HZoFTH+BUn0+uHipLMVq t7CVi20WEqLFGMPNqKqDFUJdaSbuOl69/g/DspuYITZWkcslIvqJ6dXEI59I5f90 JBo5Bj5WOYz69nK3mB5PuE22sJTipKHOzwUodD8gQ+mvajro6GRFaln1KBvqw+0T lg/eRY8PV6ZwB8F1gvx9C2SDxDnhFakaiaJNTdl9pEHQe0LXtnM4tcGJyjBsgso+ 1v0J+jYvrdchz1W+D1xlbyYkqySKw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrvdefgddugeefucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffvufgjfhffkfggtgfgsehtqhertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpefuvggrnhcu hghhihhtthhonhcuoehsphifhhhithhtohhnsehsphifhhhithhtohhnrdhnrghmvgeqne cuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepvdfgkeevtdetvedvhffhgeevleelfeekveeuveehffduvdei udfhgeelvefghfehnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilh hfrhhomhepshhpfihhihhtthhonhesshhpfihhihhtthhonhdrnhgrmhgv X-ME-Proxy: In-Reply-To: <2EFBBE54-62F4-4373-82D6-DC8750B648BA@kuaishou.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.25; envelope-from=spwhitton@spwhitton.name; helo=wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263423 Archived-At: Hello, On Sun 24 Jan 2021 at 06:12AM GMT, Zhiwei Chen wrote: > Which will make `C-x o` invoke a transient version of `other-window' like= `text-scale-adjust=E2=80=99 does. > > What benefits from this change: > 1. Fewer keystrokes for multi windows navigation > 2. Reduce the probability of RSI > 3. Able to navigate windows backwards Seems useful to have this be something you can toggle on, but I'd prefer not to have the default change. Transient maps with self-inserting chars lead to commands when you intended just to type, in my experience. --=20 Sean Whitton