From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why does Gnus article-moving act like a fetch of new news? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 10:29:24 +0200 Message-ID: <87mtu65yqj.fsf@igel.home> References: <87lf9rruzl.fsf@red-bean.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3590"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs Development To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 10 10:30:52 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lV911-0000np-LQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 10:30:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50900 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lV910-0003ED-Nf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 04:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35456) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lV8zl-0002mb-9k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 04:29:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:36066) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lV8zj-00018L-2O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 04:29:32 -0400 Original-Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FHSpZ2NvGz1qt44; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 10:29:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FHSpZ28MMz1qvBf; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 10:29:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uQbxCgUAAGqv; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 10:29:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: Cso/tkzH9wmI1BfRbQLBJMP1h/OJoDL8CuigAEJzg5YD7mh3ovOb8pCabMLsQpv3 Original-Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-178-21.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.178.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 10:29:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E0A012C36BB; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 10:29:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Yow: I just had a NOSE JOB!! In-Reply-To: <87lf9rruzl.fsf@red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Fri, 09 Apr 2021 16:47:10 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.18.0.9; envelope-from=whitebox@nefkom.net; helo=mail-out.m-online.net X-Spam_score_int: -22 X-Spam_score: -2.3 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267780 Archived-At: On Apr 09 2021, Karl Fogel wrote: > I expected article-moving to be an entirely local operation, and to have > nothing to do with fetching new news. After all, Gnus already has the > article in question -- it's not "new". What if the destination group has been updated in the mean time? Gnus needs to know the current status of the group, before it can write to it. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."