From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Package cl is deprecated Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2021 03:10:46 +0200 Message-ID: <87mtq0hcrt.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87eebclnsz.fsf@web.de> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23698"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:QVbLuXc1RYgfblQ9VxfLaSXjhuM= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 02 03:11:21 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mAMUD-00060R-KN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 03:11:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38660 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mAMUC-0002SM-8e for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 21:11:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45742) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mAMTo-0002Nr-A5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 21:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:43792) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mAMTm-0003WF-P9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 21:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mAMTk-0005Qy-NK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 03:10:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -26 X-Spam_score: -2.7 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_C=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132298 Archived-At: Hongyi Zhao wrote: > Are these newsgroups or mailing lists? I can't find them on: > . They are mailing lists, ding@gnus.org and info-gnus-english@gnu.org, however with Gnus and in particular the mailing-list-to-NNTP gateway Gmane, one can read and interact with them, and do a lot of other stuff, with the convenience of the newsgroup organization and interface. (In this case, as said, as gmane.emacs.gnus.general and gmane.emacs.gnus.user, respectively.) You can do old, real Usenet (from for example nntp.aioe.org) - not sure if that's a good idea as quality hasn't exactly picked up, but it's possible nonetheless - you can do mailing lists, as exemplified above, from news.gmane.io - you can do mail (several backends possible, I recommend nnml) - even read blogs from gwene.org - all with the same, great interface. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal