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From: Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@thregr.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: Re: Incorrect font weight selected
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2022 19:08:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mtkaujbs.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bl0q9hz6.fsf@gnu.org>

On Wed, Jan 05 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> I believe you.  But the problem is that there are so many different
> use patterns with fonts and faces that it is impossible to test all
> the consequences in such a short time, certainly by a single
> individual.

Absolutely.

> Then maybe I didn't realize what problem are you trying to solve.
> Does the problem happen only with new frames?  At least Sean Whitton
> said in this thread that his problems caused by 1b2511f are not with
> new frames, AFAIU.

Before guessing too much, can we get some comments from Sean and Dmitry?
Any change either can comment on the patch and/or behavior?

I think this was simply confounded by the fact that starting with
--daemon changes the startup semantics and immediately results in a new
graphical frame being created. Took me a while to notice/debug the exact
behavior, and the possibilities setting up the default faces during
startup are numerous.

> I don't think this would be correct, since frames are supposed to be
> independent wrt faces.

MMh, yes, and no? I definitely understand this reasoning, and we need to
support that no questions here. But purely as as user, when I'm editing
with multiple frames and I change the default font I certainly want all
old and new frames to change as a result, which is why we have this odd
dance. Maybe the user interface to do that is odd. I totally agree that
looking at the big picture, it's... a mess. I wrote some toughs on how
this plays with themes and customize in "custom-theme-set-faces/face
inheritance and delayed face initialization".



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-05 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-17 14:51 Incorrect font weight selected Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-17 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17 19:47   ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-17 20:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17 21:25       ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-18  6:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-18 10:43           ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-18 11:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-18 12:00               ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-18 12:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-19 11:14                   ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-19 12:46                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-19 13:17                       ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-19 13:32                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-19 23:24         ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-20 10:34           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-20 19:43             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-20 19:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-20 20:14                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-20 20:19                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-21  4:22                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-21 12:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-21 12:27                         ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-21 14:19                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 16:19                             ` Yuri D'Elia
2022-01-05 17:05                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 17:11                                 ` Yuri D'Elia
2022-01-05 18:04                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 18:08                                     ` Yuri D'Elia [this message]
2022-01-05 19:07                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 23:16                                         ` Yuri D'Elia
2022-01-06  7:09                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-06  9:46                                             ` Yuri D'Elia
2022-01-06 12:22                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 21:57                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-01-05 23:15                                         ` Yuri D'Elia
2022-01-05 23:15                                         ` Yuri D'Elia
2022-01-06  5:15                                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-06  0:41                               ` Po Lu
2022-01-06  0:54                                 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06  9:49                                 ` Yuri D'Elia
2022-01-06 12:21                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-21 13:52                       ` John ff
2021-12-20 20:05               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-20 15:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-18 23:26 ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-19  6:44   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-19 11:29     ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-19 12:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-19 12:57         ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-19 13:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-19 21:03         ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-19 22:04           ` Yuri D'Elia
2021-12-19 22:39             ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-20 21:59           ` Sean Whitton

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