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From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Setting up abbrev
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2022 20:36:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mtcnbykf.fsf@dataswamp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: SJ0PR10MB548892C62DB800E5326EEB1EF39A9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com

Drew Adams wrote:

>> Okay, but I still don't understand the benefit of using it
>> in practice compared to the list (a b)?
>
> Do you mean use the _notation_? I guess you instead mean use
> a dotted list: a list whose last cdr is a non-nil atom.
>
> If so, the answer is that in general you do want to use
> a true/proper list (last cdr is nil), and NOT a dotted list.
> For many reasons, not least of which is using a function
> that needs to traverse all list elements (e.g. `length',
> mapping/sequence functions).
>
> You can use a dotted list in these cases:
>
> 1. You want to save conses (not create so many), in
>    a context where you're not going to be needing to use the
>    cons as a list (mapping etc.), or a context where you
>    know you'll only ever want an atom cdr.
>
> 2. You want/need, in effect, to have a backwards key-value
>    pair, (list-value . atom-key). You have a list to use for
>    most purposes (ignoring the last cdr), and you have an
>    atom (the cdr) for a few rare purposes, as a kind of
>    label for the list.
>
> #2 is usually the result of trying to adapt to legacy code
> that expects to treat just a list (and doesn't need to
> follow it to its end). IOW, #2 is typically an ugly hack.
> For new code you'd instead just put the atom first:
> (atom-key . list-value).

Why? What data can (a . b) hold that (list a b) cannot?

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-01 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-31 12:23 Setting up abbrev wilnerthomas--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-31 13:08 ` Jean Louis
2022-08-01  3:06   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-08-01  6:04     ` Jean Louis
2022-08-01  7:42       ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found] ` <YuZ+ucBrwA9vOR/F@protected.localdomain-N8JMuQk----2>
2022-07-31 15:35   ` wilnerthomas--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-31 16:40     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-08-01  6:21       ` Jean Louis
2022-08-01  6:05     ` Jean Louis
2022-07-31 20:02 ` kf
2022-08-01  3:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-08-01 10:41   ` uzibalqa
2022-08-01 11:39     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-08-01 14:56       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-08-01 15:14         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-08-01 16:36           ` Drew Adams
2022-08-01 16:57             ` wilnerthomas--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-08-01 18:36             ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2022-08-01 19:20               ` Drew Adams
2022-08-01 16:56       ` tomas
2022-08-01 18:40         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-08-01 20:37           ` tomas
2022-08-01 11:33   ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-08-01 11:42     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-08-01 12:54       ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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