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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296717 Archived-At: Hello, On Sun 02 Oct 2022 at 07:11PM +03, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I submit that those reasons were most probably derived from a broken > analogy with the *.elc files and with byte-compilation in general. > Not from actual usage experience. Native compilation looks > deceptively similar to byte compilation, but it isn't. So if > producing the *.eln files seems to contradict some Debian rules and > procedures, my suggestion is to talk to the upstream project, before > inventing solutions, because of 2 considerations: > > . the problems may not be real ones, only perceived ones > . the upstream codebase might already provide solutions The battery usage thing is real, from my own user experience. I have to remember not to unplug my laptop until the load indicator in my status bar has dropped back down, else the battery won't last as long as I expect it to. -- Sean Whitton