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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 2de0381a8675c20778d2c21c08b77d26; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 00:40:09 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (uzibalqa@proton.me's message of "Wed, 12 Oct 2022 22:25:10 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20740 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.185.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic305-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139879 Archived-At: uzibalqa writes: > I agree with you, but its definitely not the result of user settings. > Some program gets to a condition that make this happen. It is not a > straightforward thing. Things are not clear right now. X resources are not just put in a file, and Emacs does not really determine where they come from, which is (in no particular order): - the server-global resource string, on the root window of screen 0. - screen-local resources, on the root window of the default screen. - ~/.Xresources or ~/.Xdefaults, if neither of the above are set. - ~/.Xdefaults-name, where name is the name of the machine on which *Emacs* is running. - application specific resources in XUSERFILESEARCHPATH, XAPPLRESDIR, XFILESEARCHPATH, and /usr/X11R6/lib/app-defaults/ (or /usr/share/X11/app-defaults). Trisquel probably sets X resources in an attempt to make oldschool X programs (of which Emacs is one) match the system GTK stylesheet.