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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 58543@debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
	Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#58543: 29.0.50; The 'q' key is not shown by "C-h ?"
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 11:49:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mt9wjdxa.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <838rlh77cy.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:40:13 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> As Subject says: "C-h ?" doesn't show the 'q' key, it shows this
> instead:
>
>    M-x help-quick-or-quit 	Display the quick help buffer.
>
> This is sub-optimal, I think, and will help users who need this "quick
> help" less than it could be.
>
> Thinking about it, perhaps 'q'; should be on the first line shown by
> "C-h ?".

Hm...  It's rather confusing all over now.  All the other commands after
`C-h ?' do the same as typing the commands directly.

That is, `C-h t' shows the Emacs tutorial, and `C-h ? t' does the same.

`C-h q' shows the quick help, but `C-h ? q' doesn't -- it just exits
`help-for-help'.

But the help-for-help says that it "Display the quick help buffer.",
which is only correct when you haven't `C-h ?' first.

So this is confusing on several different levels at the same time, and I
don't know what the best fix here would be.

Perhaps Philip of Stefan has some ideas; added to the CCs.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-16  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-15  9:40 bug#58543: 29.0.50; The 'q' key is not shown by "C-h ?" Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16  9:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2022-10-16 10:21   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 10:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 11:11       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 11:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 12:11           ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-16 13:39           ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 14:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 14:23               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-16 22:39               ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-04 22:59                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 16:50             ` Stefan Kangas

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