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Thu, 2 Feb 2023 11:28:41 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3FAFE7E15A2; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 09:28:40 -0700 (MST) In-Reply-To: <83tu04xzor.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 02 Feb 2023 10:02:28 +0200") X-Rc-Virus: 2007-09-13_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2008-11-04_01 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: debian-emacsen@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9438 X-Loop: debian-emacsen@lists.debian.org List-Id: List-URL: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: debian-emacsen-request@lists.debian.org List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/87mt5w116w.fsf@melete.silentflame.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 16:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:8841 gmane.emacs.devel:302905 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On Thu 02 Feb 2023 at 10:02AM +02, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > It is fine by me if Debian decides to patch Emacs to solve whatever > problems you have in your work on the distribution. That's the > prerogative of downstream packages, and that's why we have Free > Software to begin with. Of course. But we don't want to be maintaining a fork of Emacs. We are all on the same side when it comes to wanting to preserve manpower for more important tasks, right? > What I'm interested in is hearing the _reasons_ why you decided to go > with the environment variable, because those reasons might be > important in other uses. Was it just the convenience, or was it > something else? Without excluding the possibility of an improved solution, we did not think that we needed an env var out of convenience, or in the manner of a temporary fix. I am not able to answer myself, right now, whether what has been proposed in this thread about redirecting trampoline writes would be sufficient for us. Hopefully someone else can chime in. One thing that I can say for sure is that we need Emacs not to crash when HOME is non-existent or otherwise not writeable. I am not completely sure whether that is the whole of the issue, but it may well be. >> (Just fyi, I am now co-maintaining Emacs in Debian alongside Rob.) > > Congrats. Dubious :P I just wanted to ask, please CC both me and Rob in the future, else I might have missed this thread. =2D-=20 Sean Whitton --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJNBAEBCgA3FiEEm5FwB64DDjbk/CSLaVt65L8GYkAFAmPb5LcZHHNwd2hpdHRv bkBzcHdoaXR0b24ubmFtZQAKCRBpW3rkvwZiQBx9EACqUaOs3DYqcvhSaLxyp98o S7pqSpmbpYsWCPYpga9J153psQyJeJ8rE7rk/xHLDSx0K7Tb9l/zpJXyIkDzQ4je DsywgoHJRB5dVWtu5Dt9gdNmyHZEO0OvXN32EeSFlcX5QuxaH126boqu3cgsdLxB 1wk1twtiVls7B0vPVdvTeCFTYwstJl+2IsauBbOeu6RY80tf6MBvAG1t7JqnQpE0 E9/xutf0ZNSh05DS03+TooNdlsuAwcKmPkK4Pu7D7tepBIRUS2KUNrTFU1jZJLSf Djex+4QLArYyYz1GLqm3z0HsQuC2EFQytIZ8IId9BmSi7GPcEdVp3uMmCj8/uk22 epuqu179vWJ6rb6LfUmJEiIxeCBOiGfEYeSCapidLVwthHDHVikTUY6QUGMywsFO jInwCjpEpvumFQJ+DmBZat7lcvuk4HGdt6DyGyvABDSsfBxevIb+4TXp8HhJz6D9 /QdJdfo/rBkxhg57f5BzjtVn3Mz3P61umTcr6GYsyKerb+m6c9D44zcWASvvOkHP ifLolZ30qQ4MI8OcFxPhz/gmMKfr9doFmvV79jQSi40MkpVrdxmsE+YoGDlsPWUl 3dCrq2Yjxo+ZYFW0xay2tc9VA2pQsXOVp4J3uUDeG9Oye7UeZhqKsKVeqFcFDuc3 l3IEwoz5iiTfrAQ9PucMPQ== =t023 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--