From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Resources for an old newbie ? Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 03:13:54 +0200 Message-ID: <87mt1t1act.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <0e037ca2-517d-3b52-2187-a7bba7956fbd@starynkevitch.net> <87353ndhzg.fsf@web.de> <871qj7397n.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87sfbmy794.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18577"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:rz/TW7qDVXIME9QX3AP4afh9klk= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 25 04:32:00 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q20li-0004YT-4p for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 May 2023 04:31:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q20lV-0006r6-JP; Wed, 24 May 2023 22:31:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q1zYQ-00025n-At for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 May 2023 21:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q1zYN-0003bL-C7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 May 2023 21:14:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q1zYL-0004Ii-6K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2023 03:14:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 24 May 2023 22:31:38 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143728 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen wrote: >> Because, the problem is the repositories are so behind > > This has little to do with helping with learning, though. Actually it has something to do with it! Because it becomes more fun, fast, there will be more possibilities what you can do, more interesting discussions (about what is modern and new and you don't even pretend to understand it), just a better all-in-all software experience to use and to be active with and around as a human being interacting with technology. And the more fun, the more activity, and if you have those two, fun and activity - in combination - no one has to worry about learning since it'll come automatically when you go to sleep and dream ... > And I guess the Emacs releases must have some advantages > too, else the Emacs developers would not work hard to > create them. Trust me, if you are a fan, it'll just give you so much more. The Debian distribution model is great but for the one, two or three programs you really care about (mine are Emacs and mpv if anyone is curious :P), for those I recommend 100% getting the latest version. PS. Also note this this is something that is something possible with software. But what guys that are into construction, bikes, ice hockey, climbing, chemistry etc can ever dream of the very latest and most cutting-edge machines, models, gear, or labs? -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal