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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307218 Archived-At: Corwin Brust writes: R> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 9:25=E2=80=AFPM Richard Stallman w= rote: >> >> This is not a useful place to have a discussion about that, >> but I don't know what list might be a good place for it. Sorry. > > Speaking from a savannah standpoint, there is no (public) mailing list > for FSF/GNU infrastructure discussion, at the moment. > > Please write to mailman@gnu.org as the official place to contact > mailman admins. This will also reach the GNU vols and FSF sys admins > who need to be kept in the loop as changes are made. Ok I will summarize my point to them and cc the list. In this thread we got sidetracked and talked about improving the accessibility of contributing to Emacs (and thous all Gnu projects in this case). Gnu still uses Mailman2 which uses Python2 which is EOL. Is there a plan to upgrade to Mailman3? Doing so and also enabling Hyperkitty could help the accessibility because of a more modern ui that helps people on different screen resolutions and less familiarity of using email. Br, Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar