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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0879d054afa5143db31f1ae66f4858dd; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:35:09 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Filipp Gunbin's message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2023 23:34:07 +0300") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21612 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.190.147; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic315-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307302 Archived-At: Filipp Gunbin writes: > I certainly don't count as a frequent contributor (and never used > Android, except one tablet long ago), but still. What concerns me is > the target audience of Android port. Why would you use Emacs on > Android? There're various Android devices around me - mainly phones and > TVs, but I wouldn't do any serious practical work on them. I would; or rather, I do. > If you have Android phone/tablet, then to use Emacs you perhaps need a > separate keyboard and display. I doubt that would cost less than a > laptop capable of running Emacs. That's not true. Support for on-screen keyboards and touch screen devices (both on X and Android) is part of the Android port. > One more note regarding Android (mostly a rumour). I work in online > cinema, and for years we had problems supporting various TV platforms. > It once appeared that more and more vendors switch to Android, and > that's good - less work for us. But now most of them are just creating > their own custom platforms - to avoid licensing costs put on them by > Google. Android TV is 100% proprietary software; Android itself is not, so you don't see this with devices running regular Android.