From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: john muhl via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65006: 29.1.50; c-ts-mode: else block not indented right on TAB Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2023 14:26:11 -0500 Message-ID: <87msz21woc.fsf@pub.pink> References: <59aa8ff84460f695fbf94db4849f1596@sadiqpk.org> <83zg39znkq.fsf@gnu.org> <3B97B92B-BCBA-49B0-91EE-FD3F0CED268E@gmail.com> <83edklz86l.fsf@gnu.org> <877E190B-7BFA-45AA-ACC6-2E288DFE2FBB@gmail.com> <835y5wzl4y.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: john muhl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38504"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Yuan Fu , 65006@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 08 06:58:27 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qTEnb-0009pQ-PF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 06:58:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qTEnM-0001k8-QJ; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 00:58:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qTEnC-0001h9-DM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 00:58:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qTEnC-0000r1-4V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 00:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qTEnC-0005eO-0t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 00:58:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: john muhl Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2023 04:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65006 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 65006-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65006.169147064621662 (code B ref 65006); Tue, 08 Aug 2023 04:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 65006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Aug 2023 04:57:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34758 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qTEmZ-0005dC-Bv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 00:57:26 -0400 Original-Received: from out-116.mta0.migadu.com ([91.218.175.116]:43975) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qT5rr-0007cB-04 for 65006@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2023 15:26:16 -0400 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pub.pink; s=key1; t=1691436373; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=YBsEx8uOsYzOTXjEwhm4efDiSABBL2e7D8xMWsxu2fk=; b=xHsT6H9yufXmeGRjWd9mZFMRgaMLCEaj4ev+46NYBUoDnOjF/8VrijHRzbgWgoqHO+vCH3 VKSnej3e++WW9SnQ3y+AKP5yei+TgR0ylOVfF8/pNSmqhHk7DRzqZZeQ9GWeFQFU8RkWwh U2exxfmcnrZ9TuWoQ4fJYVp+drwsSO0= In-Reply-To: <835y5wzl4y.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2023 09:37:49 +0300") X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 08 Aug 2023 00:57:17 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:266918 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Maybe we should track all those discussions, and voice our opinion > against changes whose reasons are not strong enough to justify > breakage? For example, this particular PR was around since Sep 2022, > so we should have had ample time to voice our objections. > > And anyway, this again raises the issue of Someone=E2=84=A2 volunteering = to > keep track of these developments. We already have 14 TS-based modes > in Emacs (on master), so this is not a trivial job, I think. I=E2=80=99m now subscribed to all of the relevant grammar repos and will tr= y to keep up with changes there. I=E2=80=99m probably not the right person to vo= ice an opinion on them without consulting higher authorities but hopefully that part won=E2=80=99t be required very often. > I agree that we have a problem here. The only question is how to > solve it in a reasonable way that will hold given our development and > release schedules, and given the schedules of users and distros > upgrading the Emacs versions. Do you think the benefit of having ts modes be core packages would be enough to justify whatever extra work that entails? It wouldn=E2=80=99t help with syncing up release schedules but =E2=80=9Cinstall the latest version f= rom ELPA=E2=80=9D might be enough better of an answer than =E2=80=9Cwait for th= e next Emacs release or build from master=E2=80=9D for most people.