From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Clojure mode Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 07:26:30 +0000 Message-ID: <87msy9ng7t.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87h6ontwfv.fsf@posteo.net> <4874df51-9652-f9fd-0576-9dd6a4cba31a@gutov.dev> <3d5ef276-ce6b-9ff0-0c60-1da6b887b365@gutov.dev> <1070e416-2a13-49e0-90d4-fbc526cd461c@app.fastmail.com> <83ttskia84.fsf@gnu.org> <97c96b72-ebba-4853-98d2-86e3ba8bbc05@app.fastmail.com> <83sf84i9ix.fsf@gnu.org> <837cpfhzdm.fsf@gnu.org> <83zg2agjp8.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttshk3ns.fsf@posteo.net> <87pm35k2ui.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35296"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier , yandros@gmail.com, bozhidar@batsov.dev, dmitry@gutov.dev, rms@gnu.org, danny@dfreeman.email, emacs-devel@gnu.org, manuel.uberti@inventati.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 30 09:27:29 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qbFbs-0008xX-JL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 09:27:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qbFb9-0001YP-15; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 03:26:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qbFb6-0001XS-SG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 03:26:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qbFb2-00007Z-6m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 03:26:40 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB9DC240105 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 09:26:33 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1693380393; bh=qhdB7NyaYrYulTn253dMaitRZSrPm7yirPkcjiwTsGQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=NibxLlOwfaKOaHpmwa5unrWSq6wgl9lFuKqvqGkRL4GrCMlGgKHcEcRhveGHW4+qw Sbi/zZXWdFgzjP3aeQRF/5UoLfK2qE03d4vthlc4S8/HiXmR7z9qBbS3G8eV2Ld1lk fG5S9TBuOe5RsGMPP0/RSwvHSt505bQhl7em5VEDkb1FytzMhibF1IPajyWuE8b72O oKLuOWMYYlsQeB83uCBovW55sRm3Tadthdyd5l413tUsF7ms60F2FZMH189KsLP7G1 h1MBgGlFFgznMZvliwA/uxVUwFYI2/2O6mCEsEgRToYnhps2WgSR9rzP7ZB0F5+dMI YyB+meW+2tlbQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RbG7W6f5gz6tyD; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 09:26:31 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Tue, 29 Aug 2023 22:43:18 +0200") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309532 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > >> > FWIW, my ideal scenario looks like this: >> > >> > "You seem to have opened a Clojure file. Would you like to install >> > clojure-mode (yes/no/help)?" >> > >> > When the user types "yes RET", the package gets installed, loaded in >> > the running session, and enabled in the relevant buffer. >> >> This seems invasive, especially if the database has false-positives for >> a user. > > With false positives it would suck, of course. On the other hand, > perhaps adding a "don't ask me again" would make it more tolerable. > >> If anything, I think this kind of behaviour sound be opt-in. > > One idea would be to make the less-invasive "message in minibuffer" > variant the default, and the more-invasive "in your face prompt" > variant opt-in. So we are thinking about a user-option like `package-autosuggest' that would have the values - always :: always prompt the user when a more specific package is available - once (or t) :: ask the user once per session, when a more specific package is available - message :: only print a message if a more specific package is available - nil :: do not look for more specific packages at all