From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: pkg-autoloads.el vs. pkg-loaddefs.el Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:39:46 +0000 Message-ID: <87msniqhel.fsf@localhost> References: <87y1adrria.fsf@localhost> <87o77zbs4j.fsf@localhost> <871q4us0l9.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26711"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 18 19:38:33 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sJcmt-0006fx-4L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 19:38:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sJcmW-0006ux-LQ; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:38:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sJcmT-0006uc-RA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:38:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sJcmS-0006gK-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:38:05 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AF54240027 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 19:38:02 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1718732283; bh=fEbVLXSd4vEFYk9auzjo87bbk4qMsQe6ho5wdpRN6HI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=ixRjZZl/pw3o9gSGx5djed6fvgUfqAU/pxr1lKNi/geP30ANN26qgzG7BP0IynUGx gqS+hCzO8hvjqYpie+d1u8sL0Rp5q4EKjRbtk5woRca0f0QdppUHe1wBGgmJWWXPCD rM1ciz6okihMOr4w9+E0CM4mcT3yk2txw+KjiPUPMg1fn9hyZEGKvN3TAIUbRSAi74 Jqlx7Q8fpOV0ixRTOyLtJfpNWuvsO8qFE5a98O7Hgys+oZ3ycCg7rF683dXWV3XCAK +VyR2mZSnQ1H3Hv/BpLmRvjxJ7d0GUU/VpUDgBgc92OK6AQkBR5Q+kMx5mkY2u3XVR IVNzTU8t3LAWw== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4W3Yqs5nPzz6tyr; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 19:38:01 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320250 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> AFAIU, `package-activate' (and thus `package-activate-all') calls >> (package-activate-1 pkg-desc nil 'deps). > > The reasoning is that this won't be called after some `org*.el` files > have already been loaded. I have seen configs with package-activate-all being not the first thing in the config. Some configs even do package loading in early-init. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at