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h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; Feedback-ID: 20115:3760:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: 73853@debbugs.gnu.org Original-Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id -573945943; (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Sun, 27 Oct 2024 11:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D983B7E1EA4; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 19:32:56 +0800 (CST) In-Reply-To: <87ed41kcuk.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 27 Oct 2024 12:24:35 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:294341 Archived-At: Hello, On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 12:24pm +01, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Michael Albinus writes: > >> Please no more incompatibilities with older Emacsen except when >> absolutely necessary. It's already hard enough for packages developed >> outside the Emacs repo. > > My suggestion is not more incompatible than the current approach. I think it is, unfortunately, because it requires people to do more reading and thinking when updating their code. I find your idea interesting, but also not useful enough for the complexity that it entails -- both transition complexity, and inherent complexity. -- Sean Whitton