From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: across terminals Date: 25 Apr 2002 20:31:22 +0900 Organization: The XEmacs Project Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87lmbcaub9.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019734410 12793 127.0.0.1 (25 Apr 2002 11:33:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , PPAATT@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 170hVC-0003KE-00 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:33:30 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 170hXK-0007vM-00 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:35:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170hUw-0004Qd-00; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:33:14 -0400 Original-Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.98.109]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170hU0-00042E-00 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 170hT9-00018O-00; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:31:23 +0900 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.51 (Python 2.1.3 on Linux/i686) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3248 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3248 >>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii writes: Eli> IIRC, \ and _ have some issues on Japanese keyboards. Yes, although the list is \ (the code point maps to YEN SYMBOL), ~ (OVERBAR), and | (BROKEN BAR = U+00A6). There's another problem that I've occasionally encountered, is that my muscle memory knows where "the key that invokes eval-expression" is in a way that isn't entirely linked to "where : is". Non-US keyboards tend to move punctuation around a lot. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py