From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customize interface: better face editor Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:21:00 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87llj0xr8z.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1086560555 31896 80.91.224.253 (6 Jun 2004 22:22:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 22:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 07 00:22:29 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BX629-0001PZ-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 00:22:29 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BX629-0000tt-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 00:22:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BX62e-00082M-R2 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:23:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BX62c-000822-OS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:22:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BX62b-00081q-7m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:22:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BX62b-00081n-4l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:22:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.224.249] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BX60m-0007cL-6K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:21:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BX60l-0000iP-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 00:21:03 +0200 Original-Received: from yokohama2-61-203-152-191.ap.0038.net ([61.203.152.191]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 00:21:03 +0200 Original-Received: from miles by yokohama2-61-203-152-191.ap.0038.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 00:21:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: yokohama2-61-203-152-191.ap.0038.net System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Cancel-Lock: sha1:yAlGS7KgjpKi9m3FgVh+rInU3RE= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24624 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24624 Per Abrahamsen writes: > The current face editor looks like this (in the -nw version, which > currently work better than the windowing version): ... > I wonder if it would look better as: > > Widget Button Face: (sample) [Hide] > [State]: you have edited the value as text, but you have not set the fac > Face used for widget buttons. > Parent groups: [Widget Faces] > Inherit attributes from these faces: > [INS] > Attributes of this face: > [DEL] Weight: [Value Menu] bold > [Add attribute] This feels too heavy-weight; the current face editor -- and as I noted in a previous post, you seem to be using an extremely out-of-date version in your examples -- has the big advantage that everything's presented up-front. The current style gives you a good overview of the `possibilities' for a face, which I think makes face editing easier; there aren't all that many attributes, and the visual impact of unselected attributes is pretty minor (much more so in the current version than in the version you're using). -Miles -- Ich bin ein Virus. Mach' mit und kopiere mich in Deine .signature.