From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Brockman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Kevin Rodgers changes Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:33:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87lkh1zkgf.fsf@wigwam.brockman.se> References: <878xd8dw3d.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <17941.35328.281122.300772@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <5y7isq2tho.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d52ifekm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87odm1l32i.fsf_-_@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176133553 10857 80.91.229.12 (9 Apr 2007 15:45:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 15:45:53 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 09 17:44:56 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hauvr-00013w-Uq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:33:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hauzh-0000T6-0p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:37:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hauzd-0000Pj-7V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:37:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hauzc-0000P4-Ry for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:37:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hauzc-0000Oq-NV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:37:16 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hauvm-0000o4-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:33:18 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Hauvd-0002El-I3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:33:09 +0200 Original-Received: from c-b1fee255.09-32-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([85.226.254.177]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:33:09 +0200 Original-Received: from daniel by c-b1fee255.09-32-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:33:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-b1fee255.09-32-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se X-Face: :&2UWGm>e24)ip~'K@iOsA&JT3JX*v@1-#L)=dUb825\Fwg#`^N!Y*g-TqdS AevzjFJe96f@V'ya8${57/T'"mTd`1o{TGYhHnVucLq!D$r2O{IN)7>.0op_Y`%r;/Q +(]`3F-t10N7NF\.Mm0q}p1:%iqTi:5]1E]rDF)R$9.!,Eu'9K':y9^U3F8UCS1M+A$ 8[[[WT^`$P[vu>P+8]aQMh9giu&fPCqLW2FSsGs User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:APVawKs4BjdV76YYHEHapOhHiDk= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:69224 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>> (And just yesterday people in a frantic hurry were arguing that >>>> this would be so hard that we should not try to deal with it.) >>> >>> No, people were arguing that we should find a way (like this one) >>> to solve this problem without waiting indefinitely. >> >> Maybe some people were, but I remember messages demanding >> specifically that I make a release without fixing the problem. > > I don't think anyone has ever suggested that. The main purpose of copyright assignment is intended to ensure the FSF is able to enforce of the GPL for Emacs---which is definitely doable given that everyone else has assigned copyright. Given this, and the fact that we have already made an effort to secure a copyright assignment from him, why not release Emacs 22 while we continue to pursue copyright assignment? That's pretty far from a `demand', but it's definitely a `suggestion'. So you are both equally right. :-) -- Daniel Brockman