From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs manual mentioning thumbs mode but not tumme Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:05:12 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87lkgk75tz.fsf@debby.local.net> References: <87ps5w7fqc.fsf@debby.local.net> <853b2s4f5j.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177258017 23464 80.91.229.12 (22 Apr 2007 16:06:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 22 18:06:51 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HfeaN-0002Qk-Do for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:06:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hfefd-0000qu-6M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:12:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hfefa-0000qc-4h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:12:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HfefY-0000qQ-OO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:12:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HfefY-0000qN-JV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:12:08 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.188]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HfeZe-0007SJ-1v; Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:06:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.167.54.204] (helo=debby.local.net) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1HfeZG0Auy-0004KJ; Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:05:44 +0200 Original-Received: from dieter by debby.local.net with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HfeYq-0001X0-3u; Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:05:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <853b2s4f5j.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun\, 22 Apr 2007 17\:12\:08 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/CjLAlYykIwx+MtH3Va1IIkrhn83RE9jgVDDQ MgD59NWgRQAk1STXp7ht6MOeZAZJKQW1YVm1RfFKCEPK+r6kxo LALr6O/FHZ+f2B1lXp15lKq9ieT4LzI X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:69805 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: >> As far as I can tell, there will likely be a strong recommendation >> of tumme aka thumbnails aka dired-image (or whatever 8-)) in the >> manual. And thumbs will remain as an option for people who long for >> the freedom of looking for alternatives. (At least for the viewing >> part of tumme, less so for the image managing part.) > > They would have this freedom even if we did not distribute thumbs as > part of Emacs. That might be the least confusing option. Yes, one could get thumbs from some archive, but in this case the burden would be on the user, in the other case "only" on the Emacs maintainers. I think confusion here can easily be avoided with a clear recommendation. On the other hand people argued intelligently about a better name for tumme. This should apply also to thumbs, maybe it is not worth the effort, shortly before this release and it would be better and cleaner (this time) to leave thumbs out. -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany