From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Building 22.1, on Ubuntu Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:40:34 +1000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <87lkbfeznx.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: <85ejh9xz66.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <711a73df0709080354p31c2c381oe53c1426e89d2db8@mail.gmail.com> <87odgch6xr.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189417296 15303 80.91.229.12 (10 Sep 2007 09:41:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:41:36 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 10 19:41:23 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IUmJh-0001v7-1c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:40:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUepK-0002LY-JO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:41:02 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!out02a.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in04.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!news-in-02.newsfeed.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!sn-xt-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3UFmIA7ofBjLoagmBhAysjUXO2k= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 37 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:151919 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:47430 Archived-At: Dave, just a very short point which I think may make your life a lot easier. >From your response to what I wrote, it seems to me that the real problem you had was just not being familiar with the new distro and its package management. In this day of advanced package management and readily available packages, combined with distros like Ubuntu which work hard at eliminating the need for most people to get 'down 'n dirty', it is possibly even more important to become familiar with the OS than anything else. All your issues with available emacs22 deb packages, problems of compilation, differences in how root and X interact etc are all due to distro specific differences. I get the impression you are possibly trying to make ubuntu feel like fedora or what you are use to - while I can fully understand this, its really like trying to put a square peg in a round whole. I would forget about learning about configure, make and building/installing sources. Instead, read about ubuntu, visit ubuntu forums and get to know your OS. From what you have written, I suspect you are the sort of user who just wants the power and don't want to get down to the low level stuff. This is fine and why ubuntu was put together. Let others do the low level stuff and concentrate on making the most from the (by all reports) excellent work of the Ubuntu team in liberating users form having to get down to the bare metal. If you ever want to get to the bare metal, you can always switch to a distro like Gentoo. good luck Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au