From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Manoj Srivastava Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79387 Archived-At: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:16:16 +0200, Kim F Storm said: > Richard Stallman writes: >> Is your mind made up that this is the way Emacs must behave, or are >> there any arguments that might change your mind? >> >> My mind is made up that we must arrange that beginners who always >> specify a file name argument mostly do see the splash screen >> information. > I'm all in favour of the intentions behind this decision, but my fear > is that making it too intrusive (i.e. annoying) will cause many > sysadmins and even makers of "Linux distributions" (as they > incorrectly call themselves) to simply turn off the splash-screen > altogether for _all_ users. > AFAICS, the only thing we can do to prevent that is to find a > reasonably non-annoying way to "say what we want to say". I am not sure I understand this viewpoint. I have been using Emacs since '88, so I am pretty "seasoned" -- but I don't seem to see the issue you are raising; and I am wondering if we are looking at the same thing. What I saw was a splash screen -- but it came with a nice _dismiss_ button, and even a checkbox that said "don't show this again". This is not much of an annoyance -- since it only ever appears once, and has an easy way to dismiss the screen. As someone who has influence with one of the much despised GNU/Linux distribution makers, I can say your fears are somewhat overblown. manoj -- Testing can show the presense of bugs, but not their absence. Dijkstra Manoj Srivastava 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C