From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New keybinding suggestion: C-x _ for `shrink-window' Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:46:27 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87lk90v34f.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87ejexwf4m.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wssom9qy.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <876406e0pk.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87wsslsk4x.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1195084395 3222 80.91.229.12 (14 Nov 2007 23:53:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bastien , emacs-devel@gnu.org, bob@rattlesnake.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 15 00:53:20 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IsS2o-0005T3-UB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:53:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IsS2c-0003QA-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:53:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IsS24-0003Bz-9P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:52:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IsS22-0003BH-LW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:52:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IsS22-0003BB-Fw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:52:30 -0500 Original-Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.201]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IsS1u-0005Il-AT; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:52:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IsS1o-000CCB-7S; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:52:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:53:35 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 88f972a75cd389d721acc69b695bb680 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1784 [Nov 15 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 19 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:83216 Archived-At: > Lennart Borgman has been working on a similar package, now called > winsize.el, which is implemented using the ordinary command reader > with a special keymap. That's the basic difference between these two > packages. Lennart's version has one drawback: it includes too much unnecessary and distracting features like excessive coloring and mouse pointer jumping. I don't care who will implement the final version that goes to Emacs but I think we should have a simple package that just does its primary job without all the bells and whistles. > If it is now clear that using the ordinary command reader is the best > approach, we may as well go with winsize.el. Neither allows using keys normally bound to window manipulation commands (`other-window', `split-window', `windmove-...') in window-resizing mode. I think it would be preferable to make it a global mode (with an indication string in the mode-line) and redefining a few keybindings for doing its job. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/