comment-beginning

comment-beginning

[Andreas Röhler]

Hi all,

Emacs -Q

C-h f comment-beginning fails

with message: [no match]

whereas comment-beginning is present in newcomment.el

in contrast 
C-h f comment-dwim displays documentation as expected.

Can't see a reason.

Thanks

Andreas Röhler


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Re: comment-beginning

[Sven Joachim]

Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@online.de> writes:

> C-h f comment-beginning fails
>
> with message: [no match]
>
> whereas comment-beginning is present in newcomment.el
>
> in contrast 
> C-h f comment-dwim displays documentation as expected.
>
> Can't see a reason.

The reason is that comment-dwim is autoloaded, while comment-beginning
is not.  And that's probably reasonable, given that comment-beginning
is not interactive.

Re: comment-beginning

[Andreas Röhler]

Am Sonntag, 18. November 2007 16:45 schrieb Sven Joachim:
> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@online.de> writes:
> > C-h f comment-beginning fails
> >
> > with message: [no match]
> >
> > whereas comment-beginning is present in newcomment.el
> >
> > in contrast
> > C-h f comment-dwim displays documentation as expected.
> >
> > Can't see a reason.
>
> The reason is that comment-dwim is autoloaded, while comment-beginning
> is not.  And that's probably reasonable, given that comment-beginning
> is not interactive.
>
>

Hmm, thanks.

Thought to call it from a program...

It works, if newcomment.el is explicitly loaded
(again). Which doesn't look clever OTOH.

Andreas Röhler

Re: comment-beginning

[Sven Joachim]

On So, Nov 18 2007, Andreas Röhler wrote:

> Am Sonntag, 18. November 2007 16:45 schrieb Sven Joachim:
>> The reason is that comment-dwim is autoloaded, while comment-beginning
>> is not.  And that's probably reasonable, given that comment-beginning
>> is not interactive.
>>
>>
>
> Hmm, thanks.
>
> Thought to call it from a program...
>
> It works, if newcomment.el is explicitly loaded
> (again). Which doesn't look clever OTOH.

No, but you could (and should) just (require 'newcomment) in your
program.

Sven

Re: comment-beginning

[Stefan Monnier]

> Thought to call it from a program...

> It works, if newcomment.el is explicitly loaded
> (again). Which doesn't look clever OTOH.

You need to call comment-normalize-vars first anyway.


        Stefan


PS: Fell free to lobby for newcomment.el to be preloaded, tho.

Re: comment-beginning

[Andreas Röhler]

Am Montag, 19. November 2007 08:53 schrieben Sie:
> > Thought to call it from a program...
> >
> > It works, if newcomment.el is explicitly loaded
> > (again). Which doesn't look clever OTOH.
>
> You need to call comment-normalize-vars first anyway.
>
>
>         Stefan
>
>
> PS: Fell free to lobby for newcomment.el to be preloaded, tho.

Thanks. I'll make up a new thread `sh-script beg-end of
function' with the code employed now.

Andreas Röhler