From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: uptime.el Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:35:57 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87lk5ppxj4.fsf@jurta.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202859880 9757 80.91.229.12 (12 Feb 2008 23:44:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Francesc Rocher , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 13 00:45:03 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JP4o4-0005MI-Bg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:44:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JP4na-0001MO-TS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:44:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JP4nW-0001M7-09 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:44:22 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JP4nU-0001Ln-Io for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:44:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JP4nU-0001Lk-DP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:44:20 -0500 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JP4nQ-0005KW-GR; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:44:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JP4nM-000AGW-4T; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:44:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:54:06 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 88f972a75cd389d721acc69b695bb680 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2232 [Feb 12 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 11 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88916 Archived-At: >> The HERE argument is the same as of the function `emacs-version'. > > I don't see the point of the HERE argument there either. :) > Should every function that returns a string optionally insert it? The HERE argument of `emacs-version' is very useful to insert the Emacs version string to the current buffer (to mail, etc.) >> `emacs-uptime' tells you how long emacs has been running, whilst >> `emacs-startup-time' tells you the time at which Emacs was started up. > > I'm saying I don't see the need for a specialized function that > essentially just calls format-time-string on emacs-startup-time. If > someone wants to add it, they should go ahead. Maybe `emacs-uptime' should display (and insert) both how long emacs has been running and the time when it was started up. As for `emacs-startup-time', I think it would be useful if it displayed how long the startup itself takes. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/