From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>
Subject: Re: Shift selection using interactive spec
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:10:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lk4h3vm5.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk5k16ul6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon\, 17 Mar 2008 15\:11\:18 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> Nevertheless, regardless of the exact details, shift-selection will
>> have to end up setting transient-mark-mode to a non-nil value.
>
> Indeed. I just saw that Miles and Kim were talking about moving the
> handling of "only" to deactivate-mark, or something along those lines.
>
> I plead guilty to turning transient-mark-mode into a non-boolean
> variable, and would be happy to see it go back to being boolean.
If we're willing to ignore backward compatibility, I think a good way
to clean this up as follows:
- make transient-mark-mode a boolean again
- give mark-active a couple new possible values:
nil == same as now
t == mark active but no highlighting
`highlight' == mark active, highlight the region
`highlight-until-deactivated' == temporary TMM (like `lambda')
- change every relevant place in the code (including a couple of
spots in xdisp.c). For example,
(and transient-mark-mode mark-active)
would become
(memq mark-active '(highlight highlight-until-deactivated))
WDYT?
> The way I see it "only-TTM" is a more brittle and less used&tested
> implementation than "temporary-TTM", so everything else being equal
> I prefer "temporary-TTM". In this case I'm not convinced the difference
> matters, so I prefer "temporary-TTM".
I don't feel strongly about this, so OK. AFAICT, it's simply a matter
of using `lambda' instead of `only', and some extra code in
handle-shift-selection.
> maybe mouse-selection should use "temporary-TTM" as well (and be
> deactivated by unshifted movement)? Then we could get rid of
> "only-TTM" altogether.
Might be workable, might not. I'll think about it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-17 21:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-13 23:29 Shift selection using interactive spec Chong Yidong
2008-03-14 0:44 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 0:10 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 1:22 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 9:46 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 10:01 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-14 10:30 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 11:18 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 11:11 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 10:42 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 11:36 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 11:50 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 11:39 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 18:41 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 4:06 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14 14:26 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-14 14:32 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-14 14:53 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-14 16:19 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 15:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 16:09 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-14 20:52 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-14 20:59 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 21:08 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-15 0:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-15 2:02 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-15 3:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-15 14:07 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-15 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-15 17:11 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-15 20:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-15 21:45 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 14:15 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-16 14:37 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-15 22:01 ` shift-select harmony Thomas Lord
2008-03-15 23:38 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-15 17:16 ` Shift selection using interactive spec Kim F. Storm
2008-03-15 20:59 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 23:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-03-15 21:08 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 0:27 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-16 1:37 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 9:09 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-16 14:21 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-16 16:56 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 16:34 ` Dear lazyweb (Re: Shift selection using interactive spec) Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 18:40 ` Shift selection using interactive spec Stefan Monnier
2008-03-16 21:00 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 20:45 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-16 21:46 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 21:24 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-16 22:27 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 23:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-16 23:17 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-17 0:46 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-17 0:21 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-17 1:16 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 23:35 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-17 0:55 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-17 2:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17 3:12 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-17 2:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17 3:47 ` what's the point (re shift selection) Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 14:40 ` Shift selection using interactive spec Chong Yidong
2008-03-16 15:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-16 17:13 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-17 0:54 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-17 2:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17 3:24 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-17 13:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17 16:33 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-17 17:21 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-17 19:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17 21:10 ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2008-03-17 21:44 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-18 11:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-18 14:16 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-18 15:07 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-18 16:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 17:54 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-20 5:03 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-23 1:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-17 22:24 ` martin rudalics
2008-03-17 22:37 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-18 0:50 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-18 7:48 ` martin rudalics
2008-03-18 17:46 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-18 17:36 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-18 19:07 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-18 7:48 ` martin rudalics
2008-03-17 22:53 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-18 3:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 7:49 ` martin rudalics
2008-03-18 16:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 16:44 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-18 14:45 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-18 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 18:28 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-18 21:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 22:30 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-18 22:39 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-19 4:40 ` M Jared Finder
2008-03-26 8:09 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-26 10:48 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-26 11:32 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-26 11:39 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-26 12:20 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-26 13:14 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-26 13:26 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-26 14:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-27 0:46 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-26 12:02 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-26 11:47 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-26 22:26 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-26 23:31 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-27 7:02 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-27 8:19 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-27 8:41 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-27 13:57 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-27 14:39 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-27 15:01 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-27 15:34 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-27 15:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-27 15:13 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-03-27 19:41 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27 23:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-28 7:33 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-29 0:47 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-29 7:03 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-29 11:53 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-29 12:30 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-29 14:07 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-29 14:45 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-29 15:09 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-29 15:30 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-30 0:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-30 17:56 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-30 5:49 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-28 4:05 ` M Jared Finder
2008-03-28 11:10 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-28 17:14 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-28 20:05 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-28 23:49 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-28 20:42 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-28 21:47 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-28 22:01 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-30 0:48 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-30 17:55 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-30 18:55 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-27 0:49 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-27 2:59 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-27 19:41 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27 23:48 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-28 20:41 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-29 0:54 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-29 1:15 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-29 16:37 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30 1:05 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-30 4:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-30 18:33 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-31 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30 22:46 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-26 22:26 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-18 17:45 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-16 2:33 ` Richard Stallman
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2008-03-16 12:58 Robert J. Chassell
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