From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lost antialias? Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:16:05 +0900 Message-ID: <87lk0z1w3e.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <485230EB.9070203@alice.it> <48546807.8010406@alice.it> <87abhmgmko.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87abhkndo9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87skv7d6sa.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214007433 18170 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2008 00:17:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: angelo.graziosi@alice.it, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Kenichi Handa To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 21 02:17:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K9qnj-00068k-Ef for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:17:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53734 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9qmu-0001Ck-HJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:17:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9qm8-0000oj-MS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:16:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9qm7-0000oC-Sj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:16:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43578 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9qm7-0000o0-HL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:16:15 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:52087) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K9qm1-0002PL-Ga; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:16:09 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.109.31.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.109.31] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1K9qlx-00079Q-W2; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:16:06 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A209B2F3D; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:16:05 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <87skv7d6sa.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:29:41 -0400") Original-Lines: 23 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99569 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: > How about treating "Helv" and "Courier" specially in > ffont_resolve_generic_family, similar to "Sans" and "Mono"? Why don't we just change the default face definitions to something more appropriate on a modern system? Maybe it would be also useful to support something like web-browsers use, where you could specify a "family" of "Dejavu Sans,Helvetica,Sans", and it would split the list at the commas and use the first one it could find. That way we could safely use "Dejavu Sans" [etc] when available, which is probably the nicest and most consistent widely available choice on modern FOSS systems. -Miles -- Carefully crafted initial estimates reward you not only with reduced computational effort, but also with understanding and increased self-esteem. -- Numerical methods in C, Chapter 9. "Root Finding and Nonlinear Sets of Equations"