From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul R Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: visualization of CVS commits Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:07:58 +0200 Message-ID: <87lk0tfno1.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20080624.080153.252133130.wl@gnu.org> <87vdzyfx7s.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214413698 28347 80.91.229.12 (25 Jun 2008 17:08:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 25 19:09:03 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KBYUM-0008SX-Jx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:08:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59501 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBYTW-0004o8-Qi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:08:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBYTS-0004np-32 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBYTP-0004n1-1n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:08:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56931 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBYTO-0004mv-Rf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:07:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.154]:63016) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KBYTO-0004i5-Am for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:07:58 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1431513fgb.30 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:07:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:cc:subject:references:from :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=j1tPursXR9kOFfZiC0RmTfKfBbPit+wMBwt7J/4d6AU=; b=i9/Lw/V++QkRz5JRqS2Nme/jceT/zzk5QnoLJE563EoO3RpYiGv8wSRG+E5N8OGSHZ 92J6UBYI325HMZ06WdyYbJzfDRuM80Pu22RoZFDaOKHnufEqjZ7aZXCp0zhlEzjsQNWT 7ugNoLbKp5HY7IsgJ2wANaXrgWrBzmafAbV6A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:cc:subject:references:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=DA+JRrYeozgqpQc9bKfjizIxujgjzCgFFM7nYSy5k6xT5GXV/PdBNqDIcZtuPz9qlW 6l7mxzq4c/UHsqNef9nR/w0//gMtfNxfPMX3Kj1tKVGMHMukif0tcAf7wLerTwp/T9uz NGIrEe/B/OqmUX6AUnmkN1KeGcvuTvF1q1oZs= Original-Received: by 10.86.80.17 with SMTP id d17mr8671413fgb.33.1214413677248; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ubuT42 ( [82.242.132.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e11sm13670709fga.4.2008.06.25.10.07.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:07:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Wed\, 25 Jun 2008 11\:24\:54 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99935 Archived-At: Richard M Stallman writes: > The use of Flash is very bad for free software. If we release > a video, we should release it _only_ in Ogg Theora. I see no problem with that personally, probably just like most if not all people on this list. I believe it is a cool representation of emacs hacking, "visually rewarding" for those who volunteered a lot to get emacs where it is now. Those people probably have an Ogg Theora media player. But also, releasing such a media has the potential to reach people usually not so much interested (yet ?) in free software and cool text editors. And the more of them can watch it, the best for us. To be totally honnest, I have no doubt that if we release such a video in ogg theora, it will end up in flash on youtube the first day. But, still, I agree that if it is labelled "FSF production", FSF should provide it in the widely open format Ogg. -- Paul