From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Cor Gest Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:04:25 +0000 Organization: Clsnet Linux Systems Message-ID: <87ljxoffs6.fsf@atthis.clsnet.nl> References: <873ajzwoqu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <823901dd-c54c-4e3b-b6ad-512d52724a46@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221831779 29211 80.91.229.12 (19 Sep 2008 13:42:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:42:59 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 19 15:43:53 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KggH2-0002Jn-LW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:43:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53585 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KggG0-0002DG-QQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:42:48 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.freenet.de!feeder.news-service.com!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!transit1.news.xs4all.nl!post2.news.xs4all.nl!newszilla.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Draft-From: ("gnu.emacs.help" 1976) X-Www-Site: http://www.clsnet.nl X-Gpg-Key: http://www.clsnet.nl/GPG-data.txt User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:p8d0v+JbAzbcmKyw754l74tcXpc= Original-Lines: 32 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.84.183.106 Original-X-Trace: 1221830283 dreader30.news.xs4all.nl 3158 213.84.183.106:52190 Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:162449 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57794 Archived-At: Some entity, AKA Xah Lee , wrote this mindboggling stuff: (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) > Here's a better phrasing: > > • Emacs does not provide a user level function to create a new buffer. > It has “Open file...” (a wrapper to the find-file command), which > immediately prompt user for a full file path. This is annoying. Modern > apps's New File command actually just create a new untitled file > without prompting, and only when user save it it prompt a file name. > If user closes it, it prompts for saving. Emacs _never_ 'opens' files, it merely visits them and copies its content into a (named)-buffer. After you are done messing with that buffer you order emacs to write the content of the buffer to file-name to relace it and saving the unaltered-visited-file. (you _do_ use versioning, don't you ?) If you cannot understand this type of editing you really should not use emacs at all and use something else. Oh, BTW emacs really is ment for people who know what they want to do and those people do not create untitled files nor do they not know where they are messing around in any filesystem, otherwise they should not be allowed access to the system in the first place. Cor -- Mijn Tools zijn zo modern dat ze allemaal eindigen op 'saurus' (defvar My-Computer '((OS . "GNU/Emacs") (IPL . "GNU/Linux"))) SPAM DELENDA EST http://www.clsnet.nl/mail.php 1st Law of surviving a gunfight : Have a gun