From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: read-regexp Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:55:22 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87ljwlr8ch.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87iqrp7wgm.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224360533 31510 80.91.229.12 (18 Oct 2008 20:08:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 18 22:09:48 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KrI7O-0007RH-NZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:09:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34625 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KrI6J-00026F-Nk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:08:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KrI50-0001OQ-6G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:07:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KrI4y-0001Nb-D7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:07:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59893 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KrI4y-0001NS-6a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:07:16 -0400 Original-Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.201]:55657) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KrI4w-0000y4-Pc; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:07:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KrI4r-000FwV-Rm; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:07:09 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:13:09 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: c2436a487120708c9e0f2b31fdd4cc45 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 5422 [Oct 16 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104607 Archived-At: >> The problem is in the ambiguous name of the argument DEFAULT. >> It was intended to provide exactly the same functionality as the >> argument STRING-DESCRIBING-DEFAULT of the function `read-face-name', >> i.e. to display in the minibuffer prompt what default the function >> will use if the user types RET. > > The question is rather: why isn't that string available via M-n as > defaults usually do? I think adding that regexp to M-n is a better > option, and that makes the use of the name `default' > completely justified. This string is not available via M-n due to historical requirements of `occur'. It used to display the last element of regexp-history in the prompt and use it when the user types RET. Other commands that use read-regexp historically don't require such a string. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/