From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Milan Zamazal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#2420: 23.0.90; python-mode: Annoying skeletons Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:24:51 +0100 Message-ID: <87ljs09jf0.fsf@blackbird.nest.zamazal.org> Reply-To: Milan Zamazal , 2420@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235223385 18197 80.91.229.12 (21 Feb 2009 13:36:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:36:25 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 21 14:37:41 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Las33-0003x6-Aq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:37:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40951 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Las1j-0001Yb-2n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:36:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LapKi-0005M5-Cy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:43:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LapKg-0005Jd-Ds for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:43:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35553 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LapKf-0005IP-1Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:43:41 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:47019) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LapKd-000601-L1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:43:40 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1LAhaXZ027447; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:43:36 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n1LAU4sI023976; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:30:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Milan Zamazal Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:30:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 2420 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123521189822618 (code B ref -1); Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:30:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 21 Feb 2009 10:24:58 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1LAOtCr022611 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:24:56 -0800 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:32996) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap0O-0002M4-VH for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:22:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2U-0001Op-0V for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:24:55 -0500 Original-Received: from ip51.strelice.net ([217.66.176.51]:24474 helo=zamazal.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2T-0001OT-Nl for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:24:53 -0500 Original-Received: from blackbird.nest.zamazal.org ([192.168.129.12]) by zamazal.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2R-0001eo-PY for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:24:51 +0100 Original-Received: from pdm by blackbird.nest.zamazal.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2R-0001el-8p for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:24:51 +0100 X-Hashcash: 1:20:090221:emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org::SBrkyhYnhmz6OEw4:0000000000000000000000000000000000001mWp X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:43:43 -0500 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:36:13 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:25546 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:23962 Archived-At: In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.11) of 2009-02-03 on blackbird, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20090202-1) python-mode defines skeletons for some commands. This is very annoying when one wants to use abbrev-mode in python-mode but doesn't want to use the skeletons. I'm not sure whether enabling skeletons by default conforms to common Emacs practices. But what is more important, there should be an easy way to disable them at least. As far as I can see it isn't which is a bug. Regards, Milan Zamazal