From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giorgos Keramidas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: usability problem of emacs describe-mode Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:21:21 +0200 Organization: SunSITE.dk - Supporting Open source Message-ID: <87ljrsipr2.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <76fcf833-ad89-44f2-b227-e18295317ca2@p13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235702497 31528 80.91.229.12 (27 Feb 2009 02:41:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:41:37 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 27 03:42:54 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lcsgf-0007zJ-5M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:42:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53244 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LcsfK-0001NM-G6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:41:30 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!feeder.erje.net!nuzba.szn.dk!news.szn.dk!pnx.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.90 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3sWrSyKOXs33DclQsRucYtD8UE0= Original-Lines: 16 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.49.175.31 Original-X-Trace: news.sunsite.dk DXC=jg?^1lR\MMn^Yj[LZVmDVlYSB=nbEKnkk9KI=c`M<`]kL^MjgbH?lJH1TkjldSP3D[ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:62420 Archived-At: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:24:28 -0800, "Drew Adams" wrote: > Like it or not, the inescapable place to promote possible improvements > to vanilla Emacs is emacs-devel@gnu.org (not help-gnu-emacs). If you > are truly interested in changing vanilla Emacs, then emacs-devel is > the mountain pass that you must climb. > > Lowland tavern discussion among comrades who agree can make one feel > good, but it is no substitute for scaling the mountain and confronting > the monstrous pass guardians. Only those with the keys to the pass can > unbar the way. C'est la viemacs. Heheh, very picturesque description of what it takes to contribute. Wonderful writing, as we have become accustomed to expect from your posts, Drew :)