From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Switching to bzr: what Emacs developers should know? Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:41:12 +0800 Message-ID: <87ljlukjxz.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <874osi6zpe.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <28c656e20908081151h55a4b566v4cfc7c49c5ca2a37@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249771332 22030 80.91.229.12 (8 Aug 2009 22:42:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: B Smith-Mannschott , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 09 00:42:05 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MZuby-0005yC-HD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:42:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58577 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MZubx-0003LK-SH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:42:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MZubO-0003A5-9N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:41:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MZubJ-00038F-MV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:41:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45240 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MZubJ-000387-CA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:41:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.250]:7761) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MZubI-0003m1-HL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:41:21 -0400 Original-Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so423617rvf.2 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:41:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rc8k5/QBpYBHxZn7vLmV7wbOWX538R8ZW0pe1MrcY7o=; b=SUK2I1+LC7I2lc1coCmQ4HoPblsJZVGjcUxd3KXu2Xrt/x0oX8CpKtak0xLiGQP+Gn ketXFpuou5c3KkGFXumaoM8fkV7GdzLVmY1xJYAfsnSHB4sPHHgZ0HzUdgip+VAZE19R ujeWwviW0Av/Ce1yZPLqujtlxyk1UG1hOHJgk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=k5OSWevUScS13TW5sd7hg67UV0eV7ysap9qP8Jg0tquKO4u9EeIwVTOTNoFO+a0nnX IlmHDnKrRhScPw8joyWLiCS94B5UOOztrJWv9GyUFsbesg++ZP6hi/3f991vH8v9qQhN IiXNrchmqidrlcL+TX7fv+nKe+B2mMJA28SAk= Original-Received: by 10.141.43.13 with SMTP id v13mr565435rvj.236.1249771279652; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx (p4158-ipbf4110marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [123.224.221.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g22sm12732767rvb.2.2009.08.08.15.41.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:41:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:54:00 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113828 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> Will the switch to bzr affect the way upstream packages like Gnus >>> or Org are integrated in Emacs development? > > Of course. Gnus is the special one because it currently benefits from > a very nice setup. For Org, I don't think it can get much worse. That doesn't really tell how maintainance of Org will be affected by switching to bzr. Also, http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BzrForEmacsDevs says: (Note: it’s not clear whether we’re going to continue the habit of keeping a separate ChangeLog file, now that we have a version control system that supports atomic multi-target commits. We should figure that out at some point.) What's Emacs maintainers take on this? FWIW, I think we shouldn't get rid of the ChangeLog because it doesn't depend on the dVCS log format. -- Bastien