From: Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com>
To: Jeff Clough <jeff@chaosphere.com>
Cc: GNU Emacs List <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Moving from Thunderbird to Emacs for mail and calendar
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:55:44 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ljkou8r3.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AA6E9D5.9050800@chaosphere.com> (Jeff Clough's message of "Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:33:41 -0400")
Jeff Clough <jeff@chaosphere.com> writes:
> Okay, so I'm seriously considering switching from Thunderbird to Emacs
> (under Windows XP) for my mail and calendar needs, but I haven't used
> Emacs for either of these purposes in so long I don't know if it's
> feasible, nor am I certain which modes are "best". I'm hoping that some
> of you can point me in the right direction. I'd "just do it" as a test,
> but I'd rather not go through a crap ton of hassle and problems only to
> hear later "You should not have used foo mode for that, bar mode is what
> you want".
Check Gnus and Org.
http://gnus.org/manual.html
http://orgmode.org/
> 1. It needs to work on Windows XP without having to install a
> unix/posix environment like Cygwin. I *am* willing to install discrete
> utilities if necessary (if Emacs doesn't do POP on its own and needs
> some external program to do it, for instance).
AFAIK Emacs + Gnus works fine under Windows.
> 2. I have just under seven thousand messages in various folders (mbox
> files) that I'll be wanting to keep, so it needs to not choke and die
> when confronted with "many" messages.
It's okay.
> 3. I need to have my calendar appointments either in my face at all
> times (I can live with it being in a split window or a new frame I just
> leave open) or have the alarms/reminders be insistent and arbitrarily
> settable (remind me 15 minutes in advance for this appointment and 30
> minutes before this one). I have a lot of appointments and a very bad
> memory for these sorts of things.
Org is the tool you want, it's highly configurable.
> 4. Reading HTML messages should be possible, but my needs here are
> minimal. I'll settle for what Lynx looked like circa 1995. I just need
> the message to be legible.
Gnus can be configured to read HTML messages.
> The things I'm hoping to get from moving to Emacs:
>
> 1. The ability to stay in Emacs for more of my tasks and use its
> editing commands which are now so ingrained into my hands there's no
> hope of going back.
You will enjoy more Emacs-power after the switch.
> 2. The ability to search for messages and have the results be what I
> want. That means finding all the messages with my search string and
> *not* finding messages that don't have my search string. I thought this
> is what "Search" implied, but Thunderbird has its own ideas.
Maybe that's the hardest part of your request.
Under GNU/Linux, mairix (http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/mairix/) makes
it very easy to search and find messages and Gnus has an interface to it
(http://www.gnus.org/manual/gnus_43.html#SEC43).
But mairix requires Cygwin to run under Windows.
You can also check Mew (http://www.mew.org) -- it's another mail reader
for Emacs, with many more integrated search facilities than Gnus.
> 3. The ability to use the keyboard for marking messages as read,
> deleting messages, moving them around, etc. A lot of this stuff is
> relegated to the mouse and switching from mouse to keyboard and back is
> getting really special annoying.
Gnus handles all this.
> Things I don't need:
>
> 1. I don't use newsgroups or to-do lists.
Don't use these functions, then.
> 2. I don't care about in-line attachments and would prefer not to see
> them anyway. As long as I can pull them out of the message and save
> them somewhere sane, that works for me.
Same.
> 3. Bonus points if I can diddle a link in an email message and have
> Emacs bring it up in Firefox, but I'm not married to it.
Feasible.
HTH,
--
Bastien
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2009-09-08 23:33 Moving from Thunderbird to Emacs for mail and calendar Jeff Clough
2009-09-09 2:55 ` Bastien [this message]
2009-09-09 9:45 ` Tassilo Horn
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2009-09-09 10:08 ` Torsten Mueller
2009-09-09 12:00 ` Andreas Politz
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2009-09-09 12:40 ` Torsten Mueller
2009-09-09 15:39 ` Andreas Politz
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2009-09-09 14:35 ` Bastien
2009-09-09 15:28 ` Jeff Clough
2009-09-09 22:25 ` Bastien
2009-09-09 17:55 ` Jeff Clough
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2009-09-09 14:35 ` Richard Riley
2009-09-09 15:48 ` Jeff Clough
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2009-09-10 5:17 ` Jason Rumney
2009-09-10 5:12 ` Jason Rumney
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2009-09-09 3:12 ` notbob
2009-09-09 7:18 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-09-09 8:27 ` ken
2009-09-09 10:06 ` Andreas Politz
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2009-09-09 9:59 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-09-09 23:31 ` ken
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2009-09-09 23:59 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-12 12:06 ` Francis Moreau
2009-10-12 12:47 ` Jeff Clough
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2009-10-12 12:56 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-12 13:40 ` Francis Moreau
2009-10-12 16:51 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-12 17:12 ` Andreas Politz
2009-10-13 13:29 ` Jeff Clough
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2009-10-13 13:58 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 15:33 ` Jeff Clough
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2009-10-13 16:20 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 17:13 ` Jeff Clough
2009-10-13 17:51 ` Memnon Anon
2009-10-13 18:17 ` Matt Lundin
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2009-10-13 17:32 ` rustom
2009-10-13 17:40 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 17:35 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 19:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-10-15 19:59 ` Francis Moreau
2009-10-16 14:26 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-16 19:23 ` Francis Moreau
[not found] <mailman.6252.1252454441.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-13 1:06 ` Dave Täht
2009-10-12 2:11 ` Anyone gone from mutt to Emacs? was: " David Combs
2009-10-25 13:12 ` Dave Täht
2009-10-27 12:03 ` Francis Moreau
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