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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: t and nil in pure memory?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:14:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ljhz6ko7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87einrxdf6.fsf@gnu.org

Sam Steingold <sds@gnu.org> writes:

>> * Chong Yidong <plq@fghcvqpuvpxra.pbz> [2009-11-20 00:47:18 -0500]:
>>
>> FWIW, in CLISP and CMUCL (unintern nil) and (unintern t) are no-ops
>> returning nil.  Presumably the other CL implementations do likewise.
>
> This is not true about CLISP (and presumably other CL implementations).
>
> [2]> (unintern cl:t :cl)
>
> ** - Continuable Error
>
> i.e., it IS possible to remove the T symbol (with all the trouble this
> entails).
>
> As a CLISP maintainer, I don't think T & NIL are special enough.

I am quite appalled to what my reductio ad absurdum argument has lead.
The original topic was in the thread title, and I pointed out that
obarray chains ending in pure memory do not need further modification.
Then it was pointed out that unintern may change the game in that
respect, and I replied that I did not think this much of a concern for t
and nil.

From then things went downhill.

-- 
David Kastrup





  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-22  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-11 20:23 t and nil in pure memory? Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-11 22:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12  8:21   ` Tobias C. Rittweiler
2009-11-12 15:22     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-13  5:24       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-13 14:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-14 11:23           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-15 20:25           ` David Kastrup
2009-11-16  1:26             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-16  8:24               ` David Kastrup
2009-11-17  7:57                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-17 13:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-17 13:55                     ` David Kastrup
2009-11-18 12:11                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-18 15:52                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 17:53                         ` Daniel Colascione
2009-11-18 18:19                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19 16:23                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-19 20:08                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  4:12                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-20  5:47                               ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-22  6:48                                 ` Sam Steingold
2009-11-22  8:14                                   ` David Kastrup [this message]
2009-11-19 21:05                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-15 21:08           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-16  1:34             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 18:53               ` Ken Raeburn
2009-11-18 19:03                 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-11-18 19:18                   ` Tom Tromey
2009-11-18 19:13                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-11-23  3:05                   ` Ken Raeburn
2009-11-23  5:31                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-24 16:03                       ` Ken Raeburn
2009-11-24 16:28                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19  1:01                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12  4:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-13  4:55   ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-13  8:37     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-14 11:23       ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-14 11:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-15 22:38           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-13  4:56 ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-20  7:28 A. Soare
2009-11-20  8:09 ` David Kastrup

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