From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:55:00 +0100 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87lj7wcdzf.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87tymlv41y.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87aaodo1qt.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <87tymlvyif.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87occtc9pa.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <8C662051648B4596802BF3DD72FC64FD@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282661596 32590 80.91.229.12 (24 Aug 2010 14:53:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Thierry Volpiatto' To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 24 16:53:13 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnusA-0005tJ-LA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:53:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46758 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Onus9-0003WH-Bm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:53:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50790 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Onus0-0003V6-RI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:53:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Onurz-0004Vk-Kw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:53:00 -0400 Original-Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]:43412) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Onurz-0004Vb-Gp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:52:59 -0400 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FB06E8051; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EA6451C0C5; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:52:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8C662051648B4596802BF3DD72FC64FD@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:36:25 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129145 Archived-At: > And normal access to the history (as well as access using completion). Any reason why this is still not available in vanilla Emacs? > I made the point that the solution to the problem Juri described is > not to rename the commands but to use better completion > (e.g. substring, regexp, pcomplete, fuzzy,...). That's the point. > It does not matter how you get better completion. Yes, better completion is what we need. This includes pushing more likely completions to the top of the list. But it seems in anything-M-x the sorting order of completions is random (at least, I can't deduce any logic behind the order of its completions).