From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kan-Ru Chen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: old-style backquotes now generates void macro Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 23:33:19 +0800 Message-ID: <87lj3o9zy8.fsf@anar.kanru.info> References: <87mxoawchk.fsf@anar.kanru.info> <874oahmd96.fsf@anar.kanru.info> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292650215 11683 80.91.229.12 (18 Dec 2010 05:30:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 05:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 18 06:30:08 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PTpMt-0002rr-48 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 06:30:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53559 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PTpMr-00007j-ET for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 00:30:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53008 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PTcJL-0001ES-Ec for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:33:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PTcJK-0005l7-FQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:33:35 -0500 Original-Received: from cp23.secserverpros.com ([67.220.217.187]:38309) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PTcJK-0005kz-8s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:33:34 -0500 Original-Received: from 61-228-154-25.dynamic.hinet.net ([61.228.154.25] helo=anar.kanru.info) by cp23.secserverpros.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PTcJA-0006Am-KT; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:33:25 +0000 Original-Received: from kanru by anar.kanru.info with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTcJ6-0007tw-88; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 23:33:20 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Leo's message of "Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:11:54 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cp23.secserverpros.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kanru.info X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 00:29:51 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:133781 Archived-At: Leo writes: > On 2010-12-17 03:28 +0000, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> "obsolete" basically means "unsupported". But in order not to alienate >> our users who don't always have the ability to fix the code they use, >> we tend to keep obsolete features working, sometimes far too long. > > I think packages most users use are well supported i.e. any trivial bugs > like these are fixed promptly. The thing though is they don't know when > the obsolete features are going, so they sometimes keep using them until > absolutely have to change. I think disable obsolete features in development version more aggressively is good to make someone who can fix the trivial bugs aware of them, since some packages are installed using the system tool, Debian package in my case, the warnings are hidden from the user. - Kanru