From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: c/c++ project management and debugging
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 16:53:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lj3hu7ld.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: f5820345-dbee-469d-903c-adb8ef5a8d87@k25g2000vbl.googlegroups.com
Elena <egarrulo@gmail.com> writes:
> On Dec 22, 1:32 pm, "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <p...@informatimago.com>
> wrote:
>> Elena <egarr...@gmail.com> writes:
>> > Andrea Crotti <andrea.crott...@gmail.com> writes:
>> >> > Elena <egarr...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> >> >> Forgot to mention: neither "C-g" does break the hang nor the hang
>> >> >> happens whenever I issue some specific command. Thus your debugger,
>> >> >> REPL and whole lisp development environment can't help. You'd need a
>> >> >> powerful IDE to debug such intricate cases.
>>
>> >> > Frankly that's just bullshit.
>> >> > Do you think an IDE could help you to solve problems with Emacs?
>>
>> > Of course it would. Tracing, profiling and similar tools are
>> > available for languages which are more powerful than extension
>> > languages.
>>
>> They are REQUIRED to be able to work with languages that are LESS
>> powerful than lisp.
>
> This is not the case. I have a problem which would be dead-easy to
> spot by using a tracer and a profiler. Emacs Lisp lacks the former,
> and that's fine since it is an extension language, not a language to
> develop complex applications.
emacs lisp is not an extension language. It's a complete algorithmic
programming language, and it has all the tools that any other
programming language has. I already mentionned the commands to trace
and to profile. Complex applications have been developed in emacs lisp,
including spreadsheets, web browsers, irc clients, news and email
readers, database management applications, expert systems, money
management and accounting applications, calendar and time tracking
aapplications, dictionary browsers, shell and terminal emulators, games,
etc.
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.
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2010-12-20 11:39 c/c++ project management and debugging Rajinder Yadav
2010-12-20 13:47 ` Andrea Crotti
2010-12-20 15:52 ` Suvayu Ali
[not found] ` <mailman.1.1292860380.13743.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-20 16:36 ` despen
2010-12-20 17:00 ` Jason Earl
2010-12-21 0:23 ` Rajinder Yadav
2010-12-21 1:28 ` Andrea Crotti
2010-12-21 12:00 ` Rajinder Yadav
2010-12-21 12:30 ` Andrea Crotti
2010-12-21 12:27 ` Rajinder Yadav
[not found] ` <mailman.3.1292932824.3904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-21 13:10 ` Elena
2010-12-21 13:35 ` Elena
2010-12-21 14:06 ` Andrea Crotti
[not found] ` <mailman.5.1292940435.31822.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-21 14:25 ` Richard Riley
2010-12-21 20:26 ` Elena
2010-12-21 21:43 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-22 8:19 ` Elena
2010-12-22 15:54 ` Richard Riley
2010-12-23 0:45 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-23 8:34 ` Elena
2010-12-23 8:38 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-23 8:50 ` Elena
2010-12-23 13:07 ` Richard Riley
2010-12-23 13:32 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-23 14:33 ` Richard Riley
2010-12-23 13:35 ` Elena
2010-12-24 5:42 ` rusi
2010-12-24 8:58 ` Gary
2010-12-24 9:05 ` Gary
[not found] ` <mailman.9.1293181132.17958.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-24 11:09 ` Richard Riley
2010-12-24 11:35 ` Elena
2011-01-10 10:07 ` Gary
[not found] ` <mailman.4.1294654218.11614.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-10 11:04 ` Richard Riley
2011-01-10 12:37 ` Gary
2011-01-10 12:55 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2011-01-10 13:49 ` Richard Riley
2011-01-10 14:54 ` Le Wang
2011-01-10 15:30 ` Gary
[not found] ` <mailman.7.1294673476.7472.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-10 16:18 ` Richard Riley
2011-01-11 7:20 ` Gary
2011-01-11 16:55 ` Andreas Röhler
[not found] ` <mailman.0.1294764952.30016.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-11 17:56 ` rusi
[not found] ` <mailman.5.1294671316.7472.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-10 15:24 ` Richard Riley
[not found] ` <mailman.11.1293181565.17958.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-24 11:12 ` Richard Riley
[not found] ` <mailman.13.1293183850.17958.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-24 11:15 ` Richard Riley
2010-12-21 23:09 ` Andrea Crotti
2010-12-21 21:42 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-21 14:30 ` Rajinder Yadav
[not found] ` <mailman.0.1292941865.1790.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-21 14:52 ` Richard Riley
2010-12-21 16:42 ` Rajinder Yadav
[not found] ` <mailman.3.1292949766.3175.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-21 20:35 ` Elena
2010-12-21 21:51 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-22 8:28 ` Elena
2010-12-22 8:50 ` Elena
2010-12-22 9:48 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-22 10:06 ` Elena
2010-12-22 10:22 ` Elena
2010-12-22 10:58 ` Andrea Crotti
[not found] ` <mailman.2.1293015509.3728.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-22 11:16 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-22 12:38 ` Elena
2010-12-22 13:32 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-22 13:51 ` Elena
2010-12-22 15:09 ` Andrea Crotti
2010-12-22 15:53 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2010-12-22 15:09 ` Helmut Eller
2010-12-22 21:46 ` Elena
2010-12-22 10:25 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-22 12:34 ` Elena
2010-12-22 13:04 ` Andrea Crotti
[not found] ` <mailman.8.1293023060.3728.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-22 13:29 ` Elena
2010-12-22 14:12 ` Andrea Crotti
[not found] ` <mailman.3.1293027192.25158.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-22 14:43 ` Elena
2010-12-22 15:46 ` Andrea Crotti
2010-12-23 12:35 ` Elena
2010-12-23 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-24 11:38 ` Andrea Crotti
[not found] ` <mailman.2.1293190750.15516.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-24 12:55 ` Richard Riley
2010-12-24 14:18 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-24 14:32 ` Richard Riley
2010-12-25 16:17 ` rusi
2010-12-25 17:12 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-22 13:35 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-22 9:57 ` Andrea Crotti
2010-12-21 21:47 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-21 13:44 ` despen
2010-12-21 14:27 ` Richard Riley
2010-12-21 19:08 ` Jason Earl
2010-12-21 20:41 ` Elena
[not found] ` <mailman.14.1292891000.3394.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-21 5:13 ` Jason Earl
2010-12-21 14:36 ` Rajinder Yadav
2010-12-21 14:40 ` Rajinder Yadav
[not found] <mailman.7.1292845153.32310.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-20 12:36 ` Elena
2011-01-11 8:55 ` Dmitriy Igrishin
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