From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tramp does not work when using athena Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:08:34 +0200 Message-ID: <87livrcs71.fsf@engster.org> References: <87d3i44w8a.fsf@muni.brainbot.com> <87liwsof3a.fsf@gmx.de> <87d3i4b7to.fsf@brainbot.com> <87sjqx834y.fsf@gmx.de> <878vsnzo42.fsf@muni.brainbot.com> <87vcvry915.fsf@muni.brainbot.com> <4E08E971.3080800@swipnet.se> <87y60n574b.fsf@gmx.de> <87vcv2feou.fsf@engster.org> <87hb6j1ffy.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311278998 11989 80.91.229.12 (21 Jul 2011 20:09:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ralf Schmitt , Michael Albinus To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 21 22:09:54 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjzZC-0004Of-1B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:09:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57979 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QjzZB-0006PE-Aw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:09:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50230) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QjzZ9-0006P5-Dk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:09:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QjzZ8-0002Fq-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from v3-1008.vxen.de ([79.140.41.8]:52190) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QjzZ7-0002Ew-Vk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:09:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=O+OyXWhoeMrGi+ScldY3wzi2Cvr9EwQ4Obf95hiNK0o=; b=HEQtdfyHN1o/YKN6yFNw2kgKZrnV3ziYDuWpoGMpV44fbeUjp2VZMnTBErherbIxcWk/jitspXwZ2FTGEV2mEaDx9eawvK7WMbhH5tQUOELw753V5m1Jwk1vGBRCneLv; Original-Received: from dslc-082-083-050-176.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.83.50.176] helo=spaten) by v3-1008.vxen.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QjzYx-00065G-I6; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:09:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87hb6j1ffy.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:50:25 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Michael Albinus , Ralf Schmitt X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 79.140.41.8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142195 Archived-At: Michael Albinus writes: > David Engster writes: >> are there any news on that front? I'm afraid I'm struggling with the >> same problem on GNU/Linux with a Lucid-build. While using 'sshx' works >> in principal, it fails to use a shared ssh connection, which is pretty >> important for me when using Tramp in eshell, otherwise it's just too >> slow. (Emacs/GTK works fine, though.) > > Looks to me like you need a combination of scpc and sshx. Hmm, that's a > problem, Tramp does not support to combine methods. > > What about creating your own method? Something like this in your .emacs: [...] Thanks Michael, this special 'myssh' method works. I can also confirm that Ralf's suggestion to use Lucid in combination with '--without-gconf' does also work with the normal 'ssh' method. This is what I'm using now since I don't care for gconf anyway. Thanks Ralf! It is just a bit strange that it depends on the toolkit and/or gconf whether ssh can allocate a pseudo terminal or not. The manual says that this is a common problem with older ssh and cygwin, but I see the exact same problem with a Lucid&gconf build and OpenSSH 5.8p2: M-x eshell ssh somehost "Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal" (The login works, but no prompt is appearing.) Cheers, David