From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:00:30 -0400 Message-ID: <87liuptbmp.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <4E48D309.6050503@acdlabs.ru> <83hb5jujjs.fsf@gnu.org> <874o1j10zv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8362lyvcli.fsf@gnu.org> <87fwl2r0l4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83zkjatnkz.fsf@gnu.org> <877h6et8oi.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83vctxua2y.fsf@gnu.org> <87r54le4rd.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <8362lxtfeb.fsf@gnu.org> <87d3g56llz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <8339h0tur0.fsf@gnu.org> <87ippvwtwx.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83liurruz4.fsf@gnu.org> <87k4aaej7f.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83ippusjej.fsf@gnu.org> <87vctuz6eb.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <837h69sw0h.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1313784044 12467 80.91.229.12 (19 Aug 2011 20:00:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 20:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 19 22:00:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QuVF8-0007Lz-Sx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:00:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32947 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QuVF8-0003kO-J5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:00:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QuVF5-0003jY-Rt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:00:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QuVF5-0004j2-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:00:35 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.146]:39333) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QuVF2-0004fC-97; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:00:32 -0400 Original-Received: from furball (dhcp-128-36-14-148.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7JK0Ub5008478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:00:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <837h69sw0h.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:25:34 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.146 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.132.50.146 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:143442 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I think we should also think how will we use this feature if it > existed, before we go out to implement the feature. What specific > segments of text we would want to mark, and in what kinds of > buffers/strings? Here is one example: in Emacs Lisp source code, I want every Lisp string to be treated as a single bidi segment (paragraph). Whichever way this is done, these segments ought to correspond well (or exactly) to what font-lock-mode marks with font-lock-string-face. In particular, the bidi segmentation should not be confused by stuff like escaped \" chars.