From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-x 2 and C-x 3 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:30:12 +0900 Message-ID: <87lis6pi4b.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87wrbs5vsx.fsf@gnu.org> <4EA7EBCF.70207@harpegolden.net> <87sjmf7rip.fsf@ginnungagap.bsc.es> <87obx33pss.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <81zkgmpljv.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319729432 6493 80.91.229.12 (27 Oct 2011 15:30:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'David De La Harpe Golden' , =?utf-8?Q?Llu=C3=ADs?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Juri Linkov' , 'Stefan Monnier' , Drew Adams To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 27 17:30:27 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJRuV-0007oe-EL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:30:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45404 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJRuU-0005ty-Aj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:30:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58957) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJRuR-0005td-88 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:30:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJRuJ-0007Cd-3n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:30:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:49047) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJRuI-0007CV-OT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:30:15 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C823FA072C; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:30:12 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6E357137A7B; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:30:12 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <81zkgmpljv.fsf@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0a1 under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" 76fad4a87f68 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.223 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145657 Archived-At: Jambunathan K writes: > > > copy-window-below, copy-window-above, > > copy-window-right, copy-window-left > > One copies to an existing object. But clones (to) a new object. Um, guys? Copying is an implementation detail. The purpose of the command is to make a new window. Given that Emacs nowadays provides frames, the new window is *intended* to be juxtaposed to the old one for these commands. Since the geometry of the rest of the frame doesn't change, the obvious descriptive operative verb is "to split". As for the ambiguity of "horizontal" and "vertical", let's live with it. All it takes is C-h k C-x 2 (resp. 3) to disambiguate. I have to admit I got a good chuckle out of C-u downstairs C-x 2.