From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: IDE versus emacs Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 04:34:40 +0200 Message-ID: <87liflbq9r.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <83d30y87yi.fsf@gnu.org> <87d30y0z48.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1349404501 10714 80.91.229.3 (5 Oct 2012 02:35:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 02:35:01 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 05 04:35:05 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TJxkn-0006rq-Kz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 04:35:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45420 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJxki-0000oE-0i for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 22:35:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46029) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJxkc-0000nw-LX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 22:34:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJxkb-00088I-L2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 22:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49778) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJxkb-00088E-Ec for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 22:34:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TJxkf-0006ol-GU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 04:34:57 +0200 Original-Received: from 161.red-83-34-29.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.34.29.161]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 04:34:57 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 161.red-83-34-29.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 04:34:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 161.red-83-34-29.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vR10HAiN6ylNCA7nj/LMyXTRugs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:87068 Archived-At: writes: > If you just started with C or programming in general, don't waste your > time searching for a featureful IDE. > Just start coding, it's better to learn a new language without learning > a new editor at the same time. > You probably, also can skip using a debugger at the beginning. > > Have fun with emacs Great advice. Specially the part about the debugger. Debuggers should be banned for beginners. They create terrible habits and foster sloppy methods (edit-run-crash-debug-edit anyone?) that may ruin your career as a competent programmer. Good programmers don't expect to use a debugger when they develop their software. If you end using one, it is higly probable that the bugs you are trying to fix is not the worst problem with your project.