From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs very alive, active and improving? Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 23:54:43 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87li1va56r.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <5d0ea74d-527c-4c19-a9d6-596bec4a4c6b@googlegroups.com> <878uy2b59p.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <9c485a2d-1e2a-4c38-b04a-db69db9b5bc2@googlegroups.com> <87r4btl8e5.fsf@zerg32.ncl.ac.uk> <87a9igcbht.fsf@zerg32.ncl.ac.uk> <20131012220155.GA20851@www> <8738o49kqv.fsf@zerg32.ncl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381788012 31901 80.91.229.3 (14 Oct 2013 22:00:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 22:00:12 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 15 00:00:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VVqBV-00026O-Fr for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 00:00:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38907 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVqBV-0002SW-3y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:00:17 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 37 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:vEOzkaJkR54FdQrM/Y5yVbNJ13M= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:201748 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94017 Archived-At: Christopher Ritsen writes: > Right now, that is strictly org-mode for emacs, and > vim for most of my text-editing and coding. Yeah, that would be one division that is possible (and even sensible, if there isn't anything like org-mode for Vim), but I think the "gosh wow" reaction is of *mixing* Vim and Emacs for *the same type* of task, or tasks that are very similar (e.g., two programming languages). And I think that is a bad move. If we (humans) lived for 400 years, perhaps. In general, isn't it true that "what works" is obvious from day one, and then it is much better perfecting it, than jumping between different things? Even a king of Ithaca, that is so creative in solving the island's zillion problem, for the same task, I think he uses the same method every time, as long as it works. > I'm not planning on dropping one for the other, but my > assumption is that most people wouldn't want or have > the time to configure both (especially if it's not > possible to use either at work) and lose objectivity > about using the best tool for the job. Yeah, but it is not *only* the tool, is it? It is the *hands*, *eyes*, and *brain*, as well. If those are as good for any tool, yes, but isn't that unrealistic, perhaps even impossible? Am I making any sense here? :) -- Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573